Game of Thrones 3.9 "The Rains of Castamere" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

1. It's heroic to at least make the attempt and not go out like a biznitch. At least make a failed attampt at something. That was crappy writing/direction.

2. Where the show didn't explain, which is irritating.

3. Because both wolves were there and the Warg said he heard someone in the silo. Jon could/should have killed bearded ginger then and he could have done whatever he wanted, tell Mance even whatever he wanted.

4. Because he's saved her a couple of times now. She looked to be a very perceptive character in the first season, and that's all out teh window now.

It played out somewhat like the books in that regards, though Robb's wife was not there in the book. Robb was struck by crossbow bolts and dropped, then SmallJohn Umber turned a table over to protect Robb for more bolts. Robb then struggled to rise in the books, but only made it to his knees. Then, Roose Bolton stepped in & took his sword to Robb's heart, saying "Jamie Lannister sends his regards." Not sure how breaking the cliche of that last heroic surge and following the book is bad writing/direction? Was it bad writing that Khal Drogo went out from an infection in Season 1, then ended up being smothered by his wife's pillow in the end? He didn't get the death worthy of a mighty khal who led 100,000 Dothraki. Or that noble Ned Stark was beheaded and not saved at the last second, also not getting a death worthy of a noble and honest lord. Or, maybe that Stannis Baratheon didn't go out nobly in the battle of the Blackwater - a last heroic charge into battle?

And the Orell the warg guy was trustworthy why?

Sure, the Hound saved her, but he also made it clear that he's going to sell her for ransom, not that he did it for the goodness of his heart. So, does saving her balance out with killing her friend, standing by while her father was beheaded and selling her like a piece of meat? I guess for you it does, but it would not for me.

 

[Herschel]

In other news: Joffrey Baratheon's popularity just went up 14 points.

David Bradley voted least likely to be cast as a liekeable character ever again.

 

[Elodan]

I think the series should be rename from "A song of ice and fire" to "A dirge for the Starks."

 

[MarkB]

The Red Wedding was just as brutal as expected, and the revelation of Jon's loyalties and his subsequent escape were tense and well played, but for me the most affecting scene was the one between Bran and Rickon.

Rickon doesn't get a lot of screen time, so seeing his determination to stay and protect his older brother was a rare gem, and their farewell was more of a tearjerker than the episode finale.

 

[Joker]

All of this because Bran didn't listen to his mother.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

LOL. I gathered from the internet freaking that *that* episode of GoT had aired. I came here and had it confirmed!

Makes this comic perfect:



Love "Rains of Catsamere", BTW.

- AlphaNerd Olgar

 

[Lindeloef]

In other news: Joffrey Baratheon's popularity just went up 14 points.

Actually, seeing the actors performance this season, Joffrey is my favourite Character in the show.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

In other news: Joffrey Baratheon's popularity just went up 14 points.

David Bradley voted least likely to be cast as a liekeable character ever again.

But it wasn't even his plan. This is all Tywin.
And I still like him. He's smart and cunning. Also absolutely cold-blooded. Sure, this was a terrible thing to do, but it might still beat several more years of war and bloodshed. Too bad Joffrey is king, not Tywin.

Also, I think the Rain of Castamere works a lot better the way it was. It is deliberely soul-crushing. You might have hoped that Arya could free the Wolf and have it at least kill some people in revenge. Same thing with Robb getting to fight back. The defeat is so complete, so final, it really hurts. There is no hope here to be had, nothing to say "but he at least gave them a good fight".

 

[jonesy]

Robb was a brilliant tactician and able to inspire fierce loyalty from all around him. His mistake was in thinking that he was also a brilliant strategist when in actuality every strategic decision he ever made was wrong. He should have given command of his forces to someone else and made himself the vanguard rally point.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Robb was a brilliant tactician and able to inspire fierce loyalty from all around him. His mistake was in thinking that he was also a brilliant strategist when in actuality every strategic decision he ever made was wrong. He should have given command of his forces to someone else and made himself the vanguard rally point.

I am not sure he made any strategic mistakes. He made only one political mistake - marrying someone he loved rather than the one he promised to marry. If he hadn't done this, the Red Wedding would have had less red and might have spelled the end of the Lannisters.