GAME OF THRONES SEASON 8--Final Run-- Part 2

Truth Seeker

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'​A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms '


Jamie presents his case to Bran, Daenerys and Sansa to answer for his mistakes: the gathered armies continue to prepare for battle against the White Walkers.


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pukunui

Adventurer
Best exchange in the episode:

Tyrion: "You've had a strange journey."
Bran: "Stranger than most."
Tyrion: "I'd like to hear about it."
Bran: "It's a long story."
Tyrion: "If only we were trapped in a castle in the middle of winter with nowhere to go ..."
 

Imaculata

Adventurer
I've got to say, I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the previous. The dialogue is sharp and witty, and Lyanna Mormont in armor, hell yeah!
Also, that scene between Jamie and Brienne was perfect. Got me a bit emotional. Arya sideboob was a bit awkward... it's hard to not look at her like she was still the child from season 1.

I noticed a sharp difference in the quality of writing. The dialogue just seemed way more on point here compared to episode 1. Episode 1 felt a bit hasty in comparison, and it didn't quite invoke feelings the way this episode did. Now I'm pumped for the upcoming battle in episode 3. It is weird to think that after all that they'll have just another 3 episodes to wrap up everything else.
 
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Zardnaar

Hero
Arya grew up she's basically one of the best characters. Thought it was a great episode you could drop it into season 3 or 4.

It's going to be a rushed season though next week they might wrap the night King thing up. Not that they need much time really.
 

Imaculata

Adventurer
Come to think of it, the next episode could be the episode when we lose a lot of characters. If there's anything to learn from Game of Thrones, it's that it doesn't follow the traditional fantasy happy ending trope. It is quite likely that our beloved characters are going to lose this fight, and that a whole lot of characters are going to die. I don't think this story is steering towards a happy end... and if it is a happy end, it will probably be bitter sweet.
 
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Ralif Redhammer

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I think so, too. I like that they've been taking their time in building up to the big battle. The quieter, personal moments of this episode were great. The knighting of Brienne was a wonderful moment, with some great acting. But I think the next few episodes are going to see a heavy toll. And then whoever's left is going to have to deal with Cersei and her forces in the second half of the season.

Oh, and Tormund Giantsbane is absolutely insane. In the books, there's a knowing wink to go with his tall tales. In the TV series, there is no wink.

Come to think of it, the next episode could be the episode when we lose a lot of characters.
 

Istbor

Explorer
Tormund tackle-hugging Jon was probably one of my favorite spots. I agree that the fire-side stuff was well done as well.
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
So, I guess it's safe to say that HBO and Florence and the Machine have finally reconciled since they performed the song during the end credits. I remember when HBO posted the Seven Devils trailer for season 2 it was quickly removed from Youtube due to Florence saying they'd given no permission for its use.

The trailer is once again viewable on Youtube, but most people saw the trailer from unofficial sources.
 

Imaculata

Adventurer
Oh, and Tormund Giantsbane is absolutely insane. In the books, there's a knowing wink to go with his tall tales. In the TV series, there is no wink.
I love what the show does with his character, and I love the actor that portrays him. He really is a delight to watch.

[video=youtube;oNQs6bRw8L8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQs6bRw8L8[/video]
 

Gladius Legis

Explorer
That was actually a really good episode. Not that it spells good things for the rest of the season, necessarily, since even the abominations that were Season 5 and 7 had one good episode each. But, yeah, it was great.
 

Tonguez

Adventurer
[video=youtube;vwmAWOE5F9o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=vwmAWOE5F9o[/video]

Trailer: Aftermath - we see some important character possession scattered in the snow
What does it mean?

Anyone laying bets on who dies and who survives?
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Anyone laying bets on who dies and who survives?
Here's a list:

Tyrion Lannister
Jon Snow
Daenarys Targaryen
Sansa Stark
Cersei Lannister (and baby?)
Arya Stark
Jorah Mormont
Jaime Lannister
Brienne of Tarth
Samwell Tarly
Theon Greyjoy
Davos Seaworth
Brandon Stark
The Night King
Drogon
Rhaegal
Viserion
Sandor Clegane
Lord Varys
Bronn
Melisandre
Missandei
Grey Worm
Lyanna Mormont
Gilly
Little Sam
Tormund Giantsbane
Daario Naharis
Podrick Payne
Gendry
Yara Greyjoy
Eddison Tollett
Jaqen H'ghar
Beric Dondarrion
Yohn Royce
Meera Reed
Qyburn
Ellaria Sand
Gregor Clegane
Edmure Tully
Euron Greyjoy
Hot Pie
Ghost
Nymeria
Harry Strickland
Maester Wolkan
Robin Arryn
Tycho Nestoris
Salladhor Saan
Alys Karstark
Qhono
Girl With Scarred Face
Ilyn Payne (if he's still on Arya's list we should be seeing him again?)
 

MarkB

Hero
Just incidentally, given all the mentions during the episode, is anybody at this point not expecting the Night King to re-animate all the deceased Starks in the Crypts, turning them from a refuge into a battleground?
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Just incidentally, given all the mentions during the episode, is anybody at this point not expecting the Night King to re-animate all the deceased Starks in the Crypts, turning them from a refuge into a battleground?
I kinda want to see a plot twist where the Night King tries this, but they turn against him. :p
 

Zardnaar

Hero
Just incidentally, given all the mentions during the episode, is anybody at this point not expecting the Night King to re-animate all the deceased Starks in the Crypts, turning them from a refuge into a battleground?
That is brilliant, Ned's down there to they returned his body season 2.
 
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pukunui

Adventurer
Just incidentally, given all the mentions during the episode, is anybody at this point not expecting the Night King to re-animate all the deceased Starks in the Crypts, turning them from a refuge into a battleground?
Given the emphasis on how safe the crypts are, and how neither Sam nor Bran are going to be there, and the preview image of Varys looking really scared while hiding out, *something* is definitely going to happen down there.

Whether it's the buried dead being reanimated, though, we'll just have to wait and see ... my understanding is that the Starks took precautions, such as lining the crypts with iron swords and such.

Also, don't the white walkers have to be the ones to kill people in order to be able to raise them? Can they raise bodies that died of natural causes or were killed by humans?

That said, the trailer for next week's episode includes Dany's ominous pronouncement that "the dead are already here".

Again, I guess we'll just have to wait and see ...

That is brilliant, Ned's down there to they returned his body season 2.
Yeah, but he's just a pile of bones. We don't know if the walkers can reanimate disconnected bones (skeletons that still have some bits of sinew and clothing and whatever to hold them together, yes; but piles of bones that have been cleaned?)

It's possible Jon's mother will come back to haunt him - and maybe also confirm to Dany that he is who he says he is. ;)
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
So are Jon and Dany headed for conflict? She can be quite murdery about people who challenge her right to rule the world, and he’s now a potential threat to that. I’ve always thought she’s got a bit of Cersei in her.

Are we assuming the white walkers are not the end game threat, BT just the first half of the season? (Three eps... that won’t be wrapped up next week, surely? Alhugh we know one episode is the biggest battle ever filmed, which I’m guessing is next week).

I wish we’d seen Jaime show he’s the best swordsman in the world before he got his hand cut off. They keep telling us, but we never saw it. Show, don’t tell!
 

pukunui

Adventurer
So are Jon and Dany headed for conflict? She can be quite murdery about people who challenge her right to rule the world, and he’s now a potential threat to that. I’ve always thought she’s got a bit of Cersei in her.
And possibly also a little of her insane father as well. I think there is going to be some trouble. Based on her reaction, her first thought was that Jon poses a threat to her, rather than that she's been sleeping with her nephew after all.

Are we assuming the white walkers are not the end game threat, BT just the first half of the season? (Three eps... that won’t be wrapped up next week, surely? Alhugh we know one episode is the biggest battle ever filmed, which I’m guessing is next week).
No, it would seem they're not the end game. My guess would be that the survivors from the battle against the white walkers will march on King's Landing to face Cersei, Euron, and the Golden Company.

After all, we've yet to see that bit from Bran's vision of a dragon's shadow on King's Landing rooftops. My guess is Dany and/or Jon will march on King's Landing and Cersei will succeed in killing Rhaegal with Qyburn's ballista. Bronn also has to have a chance to use Joffrey's crossbow.

I wish we’d seen Jaime show he’s the best swordsman in the world before he got his hand cut off. They keep telling us, but we never saw it. Show, don’t tell!
Mmm. Also, not counting the kids who've literally grown up on the show, Jaime seems to have visibly aged the most of all the main characters.
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
After all, we've yet to see that bit from Bran's vision of a dragon's shadow on King's Landing rooftops.
It could be a massive misdirection. The Night King might attack King's Landing directly with Viserion? Do they have anything at KL that could combat either one of them? They don't even have valerian steel weapons there anymore?

Edit: omg, "King's Landing". It became a real king's landing when Tommen met the ground, but it could also refer to the Night King landing there and laying waste to it. That's exactly the kind of wordplay that GRRM has been practising.
 
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Good thing about this series is that I have no idea how it will end - could be really bad, although I suspect some semblance of "the good guys win" will happen. Maybe.

I'm curious if and how the Children of the Forest will play a role. And will all of the dragons perish? Probably.

I could also see a scenario where Winterfell is totally wiped out except for a rag-tag group of survivors. The army of the dead marches on King's Landing. Cersei realizes she blew it. Jon and company save the day. Jon marries his aunt and all is good, except everyone is weirded out by the incest so Arya kills Dany, Jon kills Arya, Sansa kills Jon. Then Theon and Varis fall in love, marry and rule as the Two Eunuch Kings. Series over.
 

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