GAME OF THRONES SEASON 8--Final Run-- Part 6---THE END

Sadras

Explorer
[MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION], Cool! Glad to hear it.

On Aegon, I think it is going to be Jon even in the books, 'cause I guess the other claimant is going to die horribly before the ending :D
I think his name will be Aemon. I believe that they did not want to confuse viewers with Maester Aemon from Castle Black hence the switch to Aegon. For the same reason they created Yara Greyjoy.
 

lowkey13

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
I read a quote from Martin release earlier today that he was due to show up at a convention or something like one in July of 2020. He said that if he does not walk into the convention with a copy of the finished book, we could imprison him over a sea of sulfer or something like that until he finishes. So he seems to have given himself about another year to finish.
Uh huh.

Let's see-

You realize we are at the nine-year anniversary of his announcement that he's already finished the first chapters of the book (late spring, 2010)?

He originally promised it in 2014- this was in 2012. Two years after telling us he already had pages.

And what about conventions? Well, he tends to skip them, like in 2015, when he passed on ComicCon (SD, of course) because, um, he was going to finish it.

I mean, I could keep going on .... but it's like mocking Paladins; too easy of a target!


In the end, you are Charlie Brown, he is Lucy, and the Pages are the football. If you look, you can find announcements from him (in some form or another) that this will be the year, or that he has pages, or that it's coming soon, or that it's matter of months ... for over seven years.

He has no pages. Until the book is published, there are no pages.
 

Sadras

Explorer
Jon had value as a hostage. The random Lannister soldiers didn’t.
What value did Jon have as a hostage for Grey Worm?
Nothing was discussed when the major houses met. There was absolutely no bargaining whatsoever except for his punishment. So no, value was not the consideration. And they certainly were not afraid of the Northern/Vale forces.

I mean I could do the writers' job by fanwanking and say it was to build more ships so the mushrooming Essos armies could sail back to where they came from but yeah, other than that weak justification...
 
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Numidius

Explorer
Daenerys dies, quietly, no one is shown to care, not even Greyworm. No witnesses. Still Jon is sent to the barrier, but the Watch is dimantled. The North is declared indipendent, still the Six realms have jurisdiction over the barrier, apparently, which is now serving as a rehab for broken hearted.
 

Ralif Redhammer

Adventurer
Maybe. From what I understand, part of the reason Benioff and Weiss got the job was that they correctly guessed Jon's true parentage when they first met with GRRM. I see no reason why they would've changed that for the show. If that's the case either Griff is a third Targaryen or a false claimant, neither of which the story really needed at this point with an already sprawling, geographically vast narrative.

I care, because he's Aegon. Cutting the Young Griff out of the show is what I believe caused them to make Jon into Aegon. I don't think he is Aegon in the books, and he may not even be Lyanna's child. The Young Griff storyline plays into Jon's story and how it differs from the show, so I'm interested to see where it goes.
 

cmad1977

Adventurer
I love how the wildling spend their lives desperate to get south where they can survive in less than arctic conditions... then after sacrificing so much to get there and with more than enough space for their people to survive, coupled with the depopulation of the north(via the walkers), they just bounce.

The writing this season is so abysmally bad that the show has gone from something I recommend people watch if they haven’t to a show I tell people not to bother with if they haven’t seen it.
 

Istbor

Explorer
I love how the wildling spend their lives desperate to get south where they can survive in less than arctic conditions... then after sacrificing so much to get there and with more than enough space for their people to survive, coupled with the depopulation of the north(via the walkers), they just bounce.

The writing this season is so abysmally bad that the show has gone from something I recommend people watch if they haven’t to a show I tell people not to bother with if they haven’t seen it.
To be fair they seemed okay with the arctic conditions, it was mostly to escape an army of the dead.

I can totally see wanting to go back to your homeland and away from people who have hated you for centuries, once there aren't hordes of things trying to kill you.

I also think in the books Jon is a Targaryen. It kind of sucks the surprise from that story sure, but with Ned always remembering the "Promise me" words of his sister, there is no doubt something is there. The Aegon in the books has yet to be proven true or false.
 

jonesy

A Wicked Kendragon
Yeah, the only reason the wildlings were coming south was the undead menace. They've adapted to the environment quite well. Their resentment for the wall came mostly from being treated like savages for things that happened a long long time ago (nevermind the Thenn's).
 

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