Gaming and orgies don't mix

[BOZ]

This is officially the weirdest thread, ever.

That is all.

hardly. and that does go for here. just wish i could think of one, but i'm sure they existed...

 

[Darth K'Trava]

hardly. and that does go for here. just wish i could think of one, but i'm sure they existed...

Maybe you should go onto the last 2 pages of "Mojo1701's" thread.... and the stuff I've heard about Trek actress Robin Curtis..... Certainly an eye-opener for sure.... Probably more so than reading about polygynists and polyamorous (or whatever that term was... )..... It's about as shocking as hearing about a customer who's a bit slow in the brain and a seemingly quiet sort, saying naughty stuff about what he'd like to do with this one blonde girl at work... Stuff not meant for Grandma.

 

[DaveStebbins]

Surely you don't argue that the only reason to disapprove of a particular set of sexual mores is bigotry

Not at all (and stop calling me Shirley! ).

obviously there are certain sexual behaviours that, to a greater or lesser extent, actually merit disapproval. Maybe those of us who dislike relationship pyramid schemes dislike them because of our knowledge thereof, not in spite of it.

Of course. Yet you disapprove without (from what I can tell) condemning those who choose to engage in those life-styles (in a general sense; individuals are a different, more personal, matter). I would not lump you in twith the "closed-minded, non-accepting" individuals which I believe make up a larger minority of the general population than of the alternate-lifestyle population.

For once I'm with fusangite here. Maybe there are some people who would be antsy with open relationships not because of a lack of understanding ... but a little too much understanding. Honestly I think it's a mistake to become too involved with that sort of thing because well ... I have before.

Again, a perfectly reasonable opinion. It explains why you don't agree with such lifestyles without judging or condemning those who practice them. Your opinion seems very open-minded and accepting of others who may choose those life-styles.

Since people aren't directly quoting me, I'm not sure if what I've posted is causing the discussion. If it is, quote what I've said and I'll be happy to try to explain myself.

-Dave

 

[mhacdebhandia]

I concur - and I believe, personally, that any relationships that would provide an unhealthy or unsafe environment for any children created by or raised in them should be frowned on. Also, any that create an environment for spread of disease (beyond a reasonable point - even straight monogamy does this to a limited degree.)

On a related tangent, I know three brothers. One of them is about five years older than the other two, who are the same age. Yet the oldest brother resembles one of the two youngest very closely, and the third resembles neither.

This is because these brothers' father is in a long-term (a little less than 30 years, I believe) "marriage" with two different women. The two youngest brothers have different biological mothers, and were actually born about four months apart. As far as I know, their parents are in a triangular arrangement rather than a "V" as you put it elsethread - they all share a bed, for one thing.

I mention this because many people might think such an arrangement unusual, but in this case it has produced a well-adjusted set of children. All three brothers regard their father's two "wives" as their mothers without apparent reference to biology (at least, this is true of the youngest two; I don't know the oldest as well).

It's nice to have your beliefs about the unnecessary hysteria of sexual "morality" validated from time to time. I'm personally inclined towards monogamy, but I've never believed that a relationship between more than two people which was free of the power imbalances referred to earlier in the thread would necessarily be any less stable or loving a family in which to raise children - and I'm glad to know these brothers prove me right.

 

[Torm]

On a related tangent, I know three brothers.

When I was 11, a friend of mine whose dad was a pastor of a nondenominational church he ran out of their home invited me to attend, and I did, and it was great. They all knew I was an athiest (at the time), and we had some very interesting conversations, but they never judged me or anything like that - we just talked about stuff. And I learned a lot.

Right after I turned 13, I went to go to church (my friend's house) one day, and found the family packing up their minivans and a moving truck. They had been found out by some people in our very unfriendly community. And what I mean by that, as my friend explained to me that day, was that my friend's aunt that lived with them wasn't his aunt at all, but the pastor's other wife, and the mother of my friend's older brother. They left, and I lost friends and it obviously ended my church attendance. :\

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Stuff not meant for Grandma.

I think that this thread, in its current state, may make my gram's heart stop... but, my gram is very old and very Suzie Homemaker in a very traditional way.

I will say that this thread has been... eye-opening for me. My naive South Dakota brain was unaware that anyone that wasn't a pervert or a religious zealot would engage in a non-monogamous relationship. Bit of a paradigm shift to know that people - people that I would consider *normal* - engage in this sort of thing. Still don't think that I could approve of it - let alone engage in it myself, but it has certainly enlightened me.

 

[PapersAndPaychecks]

What are the chances of getting this thread re-named?

It's about a lot of things, but one thing that it is very clearly NOT about, is "Female gamers."

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

What are the chances of getting this thread re-named?

It's about a lot of things, but one thing that it is very clearly NOT about, is "Female gamers."

I'll second that.

 

[Torm]

Still don't think that I could approve of it - let alone engage in it myself, but it has certainly enlightened me.

Please don't take this the wrong way - I respect you and enjoy your posts - but my lifestyle doesn't require your approval. It is what it is, it doesn't hurt anyone, and beyond maybe seeing something occasionally in conversation (which I firmly believe you can handle), nobody is trying to involve you. If you're concerned for the souls and safety of the people involved, that's admirable and even appreciated, but realize we're adults - we can handle our own relationships with Deity and each other, just as you can.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Please don't take this the wrong way - I respect you and enjoy your posts - but my lifestyle doesn't require your approval.

I never said that your lifestyle *did* require my approval - no need to get defensive about it. I am not - in any way - putting you down or attempting to sway your opinion based on my own. That would be rude and just silly.

I was saying that the posts in this thread, for the first time, made me assess whether or not I do or do not (could or could not) approve of such a relationship on a personal level - it was not directed at you personally, Torm. If it seems that way, my apologies. It was directed at the topic in general.

But, I've never - outside of the Elizabeth Smart case - been prompted to think about the nature of a relationship involving more than two people... and the situations brought up in this thread are a bit (read: WAAAAAAAY) different that the situation that Elizabeth Smart was abducted into.

Though I could never, ever see myself as a participant in your lifestyle I have gleaned some valuable information - I can understand your lifestyle as a valid and potentially healthy choice and no longer would consider it to be outright perverted, as I would have 2 days ago.

As such, I was saying that your lifestyle has really opened my eyes and educated me in many ways.