Gaming W/Jemal: Planar Quest! (Closed)

[Scott DeWar]

I feel the headband will tell Gerard what it knows of the planes so, [MENTION=9026]Jemal[/MENTION], I give you dm caveat to the awakening of the headband. Perhaps the crossing out of the prime jolts it awake? Perhaps, the entity known as Kortuth the Wise?

 

[D'Raven]

(content removed) I do not know why it is such a problem that you can not see me. I have a character that is based around stealth. To the point where I devoted quite a bit of personal resources to it. This will have absolutely no effect on the party out side of this single bit of role playing. The void sense is a very useful invocation to have so I don't care about it. But when some goes (content removed) didn't even bother to max out their perception abilities. Yes you can't see me. That's because you did not devote your character to perception like I did to stealth.

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Yes I am taking this as a personal affront.

It is notsobad that a pc can see me.(content removed)

The second part of it is that it sets percidents. If the pcs can use true seeing to see me so can the npcs. Which means a single spell would nullify my character.
And yes not being able to hide is a big set back for my character. Lowest ac, lowest attack(last I checked) damage drops by a very large amount.

It would be like my character realizing he was unable to counter spells after not spending class levels, features and specific gear to enhance it, so he buys an item of permanent anti magic.

 

[Jemal]

Kinem - The only thing surprising about you taking Voidsense is that you didn't have it already. I don't think I've ever played a warlock without it!


BF - You did read the rest of the blindfold's entry, right? it effectively negates the power of your goggles.. you can't use vision for anything, so while you're wearing the blindfold you wouldn't be able to : Use true seeing, Use Powersight, or see anything beyond 30 feet.
You would not be able to COMBINE it with the goggles, because doing so would render them completely pointless. The only thing you'd be able to do would be to swap items whenever you wanted to switch between 'blindsight 30' and 'true seeing/powersight/normal vision'

 

[Jemal]

[MENTION=6699311]D'Raven[/MENTION] - Settle down and consider the possibility that your super stealthy character made people realize that If the DM uses a similar character/concept that the party is royally screwed.

 

[Binder Fred]

BF - You did read the rest of the blindfold's entry, right? it effectively negates the power of your goggles.. you can't use vision for anything, so while you're wearing the blindfold you wouldn't be able to : Use true seeing, Use Powersight, or see anything beyond 30 feet.

Hence this bit in my last post:

The blindsight ability will not be able to function at the same time as the goggles TS ability, obviously.

I see it as a setting on the goggles: either see through the blue diamond lenses of TS or rotate lenses/flip down the opaque covers of the "blindfold" (hence the "Standard to activate" bit). i.e. the crunch is exactly the same as if he had the blindfold waiting on his forehead, but less clunky in terms of fluff... Acceptable? Or did I go overboatd with the "Standard"? Maybe a Move would be enough?

D'Raven: Why is it such a big deal for you if *PCs* can see Raven? Probably for the same reason it's a big deal for us: we are not allies *yet* and, even should we eventually become close friends, as I have pinted out before in the MAD portion of my TS argument (and Jemal has just underlined), what is to stop other, less friendly forces from doing the same? Ur's actions are perfectly in character for anybody that expects to live beyond tomorrow, much more so for a group of hardened survivalist that made it to 20th level. Please rest assured that I take the correctess/IC justifications of my roleplaying very seriously indeed. (And, yes, after the vase deal, pissing off Raven does play a small, very IC part in it ).

 

[D'Raven]

I wouldn't feel upset about it if some one had made a super perceptive character that didn't match up

 

[Shayuri]

Take it easy...we're not royally screwed if a hostile does a stealth on us.

This is true even if True Sight does not counter shadowdancer HIPS.

This is even true if no one has Voidsense...though the fact that someone does makes it very unlikely stealth will be effective against us as a party without unusual circumstances (Dark Stalker feat; insubstantial, etc).

As for the trust issues, I think if we can get over it OOC, it'll be easy enough to get over it IC. He never tried to hurt us, after all. Messed with us a bit, but is that really so bad? We can put up with some messing around given the circumstances.

 

[D'Raven]

Why is it a big deal that you can't see a "PC"? Its not you seeing me. It's about about you attempting to circumvent my characters abilities.

The MaD aspect was me not taking the feat darkstalker.

Next it's not the in character actions. How about this you actually max your perception and I will drop my stealth. I'll drop it enough that a character with maxed perception has an even chance of seeing me.
So full ranks perception +5 spot and + 5 listen items. Two class features devoted to it... Let's say 1 and a half I use skill mastery for a few things other then stealth but that's why I took it. Then I will stop feeling like it is a personal attack.


Edit in character I'm waiting for Ur to go throu the door. His last post says walk towards.

 

[Binder Fred]

Please don't be disingenious: with Raven's Staff of righteous might and quickened divine power, combined or not with un-magical/un-dispellable invisibility and a rogue's Sneak Attack powers, you have made a character that can handily outfight our melee dedicated characters. We should be the ones crying about niche infringement if anybody should. Drop the staff and we'll talk about dropping the blindfold (a deal that, to me, makes no sense at all, but hey).

Why is it a big deal that you can't see a "PC"? Its not you seeing me. It's about about you attempting to circumvent my characters abilities.

I admit I am not seeing the logic of your words. If it's perfectly IC for my character to do so, and he legally can, rule-wise, why should I, as a player, snuff that very resonnable IC reaction? How is it circumventing to have my clearly overmatched PC take not-that-onerous steps to correct a gaping hole in his family's defenses?

On another tack, I have updated the RG with a compendium of our local Gods here. Let me knows if I missed anyting, folks!

EDIT = Assume he walked though the door, yes. I did describe him kneeling down in the throne room in the paragraph following... You might have meant "Tutek" instead?

 

[Binder Fred]

Thanks for the description, Scott. Very visual (and not at all how I imagined Gerard ).

EDIT= Do we know how he lost his hair so young? Or is it the reverse and he "youthed" himself along the way?