Giants

[Xarls Taunzund]

What do people think about making getting rid of the Giant type, and makeing them humanoids and monstrous humanoids with a Giant subtype?

 

[Dirigible]

Good idea. Thegiant type made no sense to me; unlike everything else, it relies on having a certain Size category (eg, no Tiny Giants ).

Which would be Humanoid, which would be Monst. Humanoids?

 

[Aaron2]

Good idea. Thegiant type made no sense to me; unlike everything else, it relies on having a certain Size category (eg, no Tiny Giants ).

I was thinking the same thing myself. However, I think they use the Humanoid type as a means of restricting certain spells. Forex Hold Person. You could just change those spells to only affect Humanoids of Medium size or smaller. I can't think of any Large Humanoid.

Which would be Humanoid, which would be Monst. Humanoids?

I can't think of any that I'd make Monsterous.


Aaron

 

[Crothian]

And with their lousy will saves, hold person will make the encounters fair.

 

[CRGreathouse]

What do people think about making getting rid of the Giant type, and makeing them humanoids and monstrous humanoids with a Giant subtype?

I've been considering this now for a few weeks. With the removal of the Beast type, I wondered about other ways to simplify the system... and the "always Large+" Giants seemed an ideal choice for the "always Medium-" Humanoids.

There are few mechanical changes, especially since Humanoids have a 'floating' good save. I'm just surprised that this change wasn't a part of 3.5...

 

[Ferret]

I thought that giants had really good strength for their size?

 

[John Q. Mayhem]

I think trolls are Giants, and they'd probably qualify for monstrous humanoids.

 

[Xarls Taunzund]

I'd put your mainstream giants, along with ogres as humanoids, while trolls, ettins, and maybe ogre mages would be monstrous humanoids.

 

[Creamsteak]

This makes a great deal of sense to me... the Giant subtype was always a little bit odd...

 

[Norfleet]

I don't really think a "giant" type makes sense, period: Giantism is all relative, anyway. "Giants" are simply bigger humanoids. If it's got a size like "Huge", it's a giant unless you happen to be huge. Even if YOU don't want to call it a giant, if I see one, *I* sure as hell am going to call it a giant.

And remember: The bigger they are, the louder the squish you make when they step on you.