Go to Hell. Go Directly to Hell. Do Not Pass Go. Do Not Collect 200 Larvae.

[Darkness]

It's not as if she can't turn the Energy Drain off... I mean.. Can't she?

Right, I'd think she can.

 

[Kemrain]

Right, I'd think she can.

She should be able to, but, it would be fitting if she couldn't. Anyone she ever came even CLOSE to liking, she killed inadvertantly. That'd make me want to be evil, right there.

- Kemrain the Drained Again.

 

[Darkness]

Yeah, I thought about that as well. It's a little inconvenient, though. Unless she's only unable to turn it off when her emotions, not just expediency, demand it.

 

[WmRAllen67]

Re: Faust - Didn't Mephistopheles also famously reply to Faust "Why this is Hell, nor am I out of it".
QUOTE]


Faustus: Where are you damned?

Mephistophilis: In hell.

Faustus: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?

Mephistophilis:
Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.
Thinkst thou that I who saw the face of God,
And tasted the eternal joys of heaven,
Am not tormented with ten thousand hells,
In being deprived of everlasting bliss?


I've always liked that line...

An interesting recent literary treatment of Hell is in Edward Lee's City Infernal. As humanity has progressed, so has hell, which is now a sprawling city run on human suffering (one damned soul can power a city block for an eternity). However, it remains, in its most basic aspect, a place created by Lucifer for the express purpose of offending God.

 

[focallength]

Hell is a complete abscence of god and his love. Imagine being able to sense total happiness but at the same time having it completly denied to you, held just out of reach. Knowing that you fall short of god graces, forced to live for eternity contemplating your life and all your regrets. Youve been abandoned and there is no opportunity for you to ever be found, all you can do is wait...forever. "Believe me 2 minutes in hell is an eternity"

 

[focallength]

Mephistophilis:
Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.
Thinkst thou that I who saw the face of God,
And tasted the eternal joys of heaven,
Am not tormented with ten thousand hells,
In being deprived of everlasting bliss?are more poetic version of what I said

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I very much like this. Fits into my "Hell is a pyramid scheme" idea nicely. Angels and Demons aren't ancient enemies, they're opposing philosophers. Hell, they probably go out for beers together every friday night. Very cool idea. Thank you, Dr. Awkward. You are the man.

All right! That liberal arts degree finally pays off!

Well, the Dungeon Dimensions aren't "hell" in the classical sense of the world, in that it's not where you go when you die (you might very well go there before you die, if you get my drift). And as for afterlives in Pratchett's books, it usually (but not always) amounts to "You get what you think you deserve" - I belive Death says as much in Mort (or maybe Reaper Man), basically he's too busy to pass judgment on people, so he lets them do it themselves. The only instance I can think of of a mandated afterlife-Hell in Pratchett's books is toward the end of Pyramids, when Death says "You've ever heard the saying, 'Hell is other people'? You'll find that that's wrong."

Well that guy was Vorbis, the exquisitor of Omnia, whose job was to decide whether you were a sinner or not. It didn't really matter if you were or not, because if he suspected you of something it meant that the great god Om had put suspicion in his mind, and so it was right and just for him to torture you, even if you didn't know what your crime was. He was the hand and eye of Om, weilding more terror and paranoia than anyone else on the disc, and sent thousands to a horrible end to serve his god of righteous justice and fury.

And when he died, he realized that he didn't believe in anything. And since, on the disc, whatever you believe in is what happens to you when you die, he got a big pile of nothing. An endless desert, filled with absolutely nothing, and he was abandoned alone there for all eternity...hence Death's line...until someone much nicer than him stopped by to pick him up.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Fusangite, I deleted your real-world religion post. I've saved the data, so if you want to post it in some other location and put a link to it here that is fine, but I've already said no real-world religion in this thread please.

Regards

 

[hong]

Hell is a messageboard with only alignment threads.

Hell is going back to dialup.

 

[hong]

Hell is going back to dialup.

Hell is twits with huge sigs.


Hong "Unicode sword optional" Ooi