Good Drow

[Redleg06]

Well, yeah they do get offended, which is the crux of the argument, but they don't take it personally.

I mean it's hard to get mad at a guy named "Bookwyrm" or "Darthmurph", y'know?

 

[Redleg06]

(EN World, on the other hand, is intended to be a mostly friendly board - so we don't allow political or religious debates at all, LOL. )

Cheers,
Darkness [/B]

But what if it's a D20 religion? (narf!)

 

[jester47]

Treads dead baby, threads dead...

Aaron.

 

[Dinkeldog]

But what if it's a D20 religion? (narf!)

If you want to convert everyone to Pelor, just move it to the In Character forum.

 

[Darkness]

Well, yeah they do get offended, which is the crux of the argument, but they don't take it personally.

I mean it's hard to get mad at a guy named "Bookwyrm" or "Darthmurph", y'know?

I guess that can help sometimes. Still, it probably depends on the circumstances.

But what if it's a D20 religion? (narf!)

No problem with these, LOL. Unless they get compared too much to real-life religions, of course.

Treads dead baby, threads dead...

Aaron.

You have a point there...

 

[Redleg06]

Treads dead baby, threads dead...

Aaron.

Ooooooooooh phoey!

 

[ZimbrantSouldrinker]

ACK!

For the love of the multiverse! Good drow make about as much sense as Pit Fiends helping little old ladies cross the street man!

Let's look at the reason Drow are Drow to begin w/.

Exiled by the seely elves for convorting w/ Lloth.
Kept there because Lloth said, Sure now I'll make you in my own visage.(ie the reason from Driders)

Why they're all bloody evil. Man, the Society that they are born in. If human and good elf sacrifice to your demon mistress that is your total reason for being is the norm, then heck even a bit out of the norm (this romantic "outcast" that you monkies love soo much) would still be one twisted cat!

and really, humanity, love, goodness! what self respecting Drow mother wouldn't just whole hog kill the little spawn if they showed these attributes!!!

Say what you want about alignment and other classes.

Save it for yo momma, been playing this forsaken game since 1982. Played it w/ the originater (boy what a let down) and frankly, rangers could orignially be any align, as long as it ws neutral bases, and cavaliers could be much like the original paladins, any align, as long as the code for each was taken unconditionally (neutral ones were Parimanders for your info)

Let's here it straight fromthe Public!

 

[(contact)]

In my brother's campaign, we switched the drow racial abilities with the elven racial abilities, but kept the races the same.

That lets us play drow without being cheesy.

 

[Bartholomew Fair]

Redleg, Drow are CE. You'd better change your argument before some poster tries to crucify you because of your oversight.

According to the MM (p85), aren't 3E Drow "usually neutral evil"?

 

[AngelTears]

The topic was a good Drow SOCIETY.

You all inferred I thought that every non-evil Drow was a Drizzt wannabe, whereas I said that good Drow societies were marketed to pander to that type of player. So I ran with it. And boy did a lot of gaskets blow over that one!

My point was...

A) A "good" Drow SOCIETY defeats the purpose. It exists because once you have a good Drow society you can get about the business of playing Drow Rangers and Paladins with all the kewl Drow and said class benefits without having to actually deal with Drow society, which is what makes them Drow in the first place. (Their move into the basement of the world was a social change remember?)

B) If you added up all the "one-good-Drows" out there you could wipe out all of the evil Drow by sheer weight of numbers alone!


Clear as mud? Thought so....

(BTW "Drow are generally evil and chaotic in nature" is as close to a hard and fast rule as you can get in an RPG. Of course it does not HAVE to be evil, as long as you GM allows it. But then again a Paladin does not HAVE to be LG as long as your GM allows it. D&D is a fantasy world that does have inherently evil creatures. If we are going to ignore that fact, why not just ditch the whole alignment system period? Most other games (successful and otherwise) dont use alignment. Why should we?)

Umm.. to jump into the fray in midstream is usually the asiest way for me to get thrown off by the memebers. But Redleg06, just as a counterpoint. I was going to play in one AD&D campaign a LLort priestess. Unfortunately the campaign fell because the DM had too much to do, but I resurrected the character concept into my Paladinical Snake-God Pirestess (THe GM's own world, and GURPS the system of all things *gasp*) who has so far grossed out the players, with sheer blood lust.

It's interesting to note that the shadow elves in the D&D gazeteteer were sort of good, even though there was an "evil" outcast group somewhere out there. I guess Menzobezerran or one of the AD&D games was to be released around the same time...

I poked holes in the alignment system when I was 12 and I still poke holes in ten years on. One character concept I threw to some board to show an interesting concept on how alignment system does not work was the "evil" paladin, who comes from a family with a long line of "evil" paladins, has a wife loves his children, goes to the temple offers his tithes and so on. And when the call comes, goes out on crusades against the evil do-gooders.

-Angel Tears