I was going through the savage species book and found in the new races a half-ogre, a race with slightly unbalanced stats, natural armor and reach, but only an ECL of +1. Early in the book it states that each of those traits are worth +1 ECL, is there an errata i missed? Do I have a misprinted copy?
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Half-Ogre ECL+1???
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IMC, I've left it at Level Adjustment +1.
However, I also give it 2 HD as a Giant ... making it an ECL 3 race at minimum.
Note, that is precisely half of what an Ogre gets (4HD as a Giant, and +2 LA, for a starting ECL of 6 or more).
The Giant HD aren't as efficient as Fighter or Barbarian HD, so there's a small built-in "half a Level Adjustment" loss in there, IMO.
However, I also give it 2 HD as a Giant ... making it an ECL 3 race at minimum.
Note, that is precisely half of what an Ogre gets (4HD as a Giant, and +2 LA, for a starting ECL of 6 or more).
The Giant HD aren't as efficient as Fighter or Barbarian HD, so there's a small built-in "half a Level Adjustment" loss in there, IMO.
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RandomNPC said:
<rant>Yup. Every single one of 'em is misprinted. See, they put this ECL "system" in the book, but it's not really a system. It's 10% math, 15% guess-work, and 75% playtesting. Something along those lines. I like savage species for everything _but_ the ECL recommendations.</rant>
My recommendation? Use a different guide (i.e., Soldarin's or Upper_Krust's).
Re: Re: Half-Ogre ECL+1???
1. Carefully work out an ECL using the rules presented in the book.
2. Decide on an ECL on your own by "eyeballing it".
3. Adjust the result from (1) so that it matches the result from (2). This is called "the acid test".
As for the OP:
Of all the "solutions," I like the 2HD proposal the best. That would give the half-ogre and ECL of 3, which is half of an ogre's ECL and in keeping with the character. -- Rich Redman
http://boards.wizards.com/rpg/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=231;t=000243
The SS approach:kreynolds said:
1. Carefully work out an ECL using the rules presented in the book.
2. Decide on an ECL on your own by "eyeballing it".
3. Adjust the result from (1) so that it matches the result from (2). This is called "the acid test".
As for the OP:
Of all the "solutions," I like the 2HD proposal the best. That would give the half-ogre and ECL of 3, which is half of an ogre's ECL and in keeping with the character. -- Rich Redman
http://boards.wizards.com/rpg/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=231;t=000243
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