You know, I personally hate Vancian Magic because it is not represented in much fantasy literature, but I love Bo9S, which is vaguely Vancian, but on a per encounter basis! Weird, but the arbitrary "one time Ancient Mountain Hammer" seems more plausible to me and has more literature/movie/comic precedent than the spellcaster's equivalent. Well, here's to arbitrary preferences!
Has the wave crested? (Bo9S)
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My only problem with ToB was too little fluff. I wanted more background on Reshnar (sp?) and the legend/history behind blade magic. I also want more background on the hobgoblins that founded blade magic and the evil rakshasas.
Don't worry, Arkhandus, I've read your posts and I totally understand and agree with what you're saying. But some folks just either don't seem to get, don't want to get it, or would really like to see D&D implode on itself with stupid changes like "per encounter", "per in-game hour", "per pee-break", "per everytime-someone-fiddles-with-their-dice-because- it- means-they're-bored-so-recharge-their- character-to-full-and-they'll-get-in-the-mood-again".
The whole "cast spells at certain times of the day" is too much book-keeping. Isn't D&D trying to limit bookeeping here?! That might fly with a specific campaign setting, but D&D has to stick with a system that's not only common to most people, but easier bookeeping, easier to understand (there's a lot of dummies out there getting into D&D now, thanks to WotC's rise with the game), and easier to base future rulesets on.
Heck, even RPG video games do it. You lose your MP, go back to town and rest for the night and replenish. There're ways to avoid resting, but it's arduous and time-consuming and no one in their right mind would do it. D&D MMORPGs require the same thing. DDO: Stormreach? Go back to a TAVERN and relax to replenish yourself. (well, it's been changed to when you're in town, but you get the point).
The whole "cast spells at certain times of the day" is too much book-keeping. Isn't D&D trying to limit bookeeping here?! That might fly with a specific campaign setting, but D&D has to stick with a system that's not only common to most people, but easier bookeeping, easier to understand (there's a lot of dummies out there getting into D&D now, thanks to WotC's rise with the game), and easier to base future rulesets on.
Heck, even RPG video games do it. You lose your MP, go back to town and rest for the night and replenish. There're ways to avoid resting, but it's arduous and time-consuming and no one in their right mind would do it. D&D MMORPGs require the same thing. DDO: Stormreach? Go back to a TAVERN and relax to replenish yourself. (well, it's been changed to when you're in town, but you get the point).
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Razz said:
D&D has been imploding on itself since the existence of the silly higher-level spells that are supposedly balanced because of "per day" restrictions – crap.
Tone down the overpowered, antiquated, Gygaxian holdover that is the D&D magic system and redesign it from the ground up, "per encounter" based.
Almost every aspect of this game has evolved and moved on, except for the clunky, pseudo Vancian magic system.
I guarantee 4th edition will clean up the mess, and go for encounter based.
Psion said:
Mine too, but there is always room for improvement/evolution etc.
Psion said:Sure, but you can see how I might have taken the assessment that the game is "imploding" as just a bit hyperbolic?
If you go back you'll see that I was just responding to the person who originally used the phrase "imploding".
I too think imploding is exaggerating; sorry, gamer message boards have made me loathe the words "hyperbole/hyperbolic", but I do think the D&D magic system could do with a bit of a facelift.
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