Help me beat my DM :)

[Victim]

DMG, under cursed items. The stunning is on a successful save - it does Con damage as well if the saves fail. Unfortunately, it's dangerous to use - using it produces a 20ft spread, so you are in it. Either have a lackey run up to the dragon and use it, or take precuations like a Necklace of Adaption, Iron Body, etc.

 

[Darkness]

Really, I want to be convinced that Harm, Haste and Time Stop aren't so monstrously broken that they give a character a very good chance of beating a creature 10 CRs higher than his level, but...

Haste probably shouldn't grant extra actions within a time stop; I asked that very question today because of this thread and that's the interpretation that IMO makes the most sense. (It still grants you an extra action besides the time stop, of course, possibly even to cast another time stop right after the first if you have more than one prepared/on scrolls/whatever.)

 

[Zappo]

You could have a summoned monster or familiar deliver it. Sounds nasty...

 

[Despaxas]

Got a new variant made up 17th sorcerer with 33 cha. 1 lvl Paladin, cha bonus to saves 8 scrolls of gate, 2 of time-stop. Do the odds stack a bit considering I'll have 8+ solars helping me out? Now all I need is to stay away from the dragon while the solars smack it to pieces

 

[MerakSpielman]

The location of the battle is also dreadfully important. Inside or outside? In the lair, or in yours? In some sort of fighting arena?Do you have to work your way through the lair to get at the dragon? Do you start 500' away from each other? 50'? 5'? Does the dragon know you're coming? etc...

 

[Zappo]

Haste probably shouldn't grant extra actions within a time stop

I've read the thread. Seems like there aren't rules saying explictly that you can't be Hasted during Time Stop, but it could be a fair house rule. In any case, it only means that you need more scrolls of Time Stop.

 

[Darkness]

I've read the thread. Seems like there aren't rules saying explictly that you can't be Hasted during Time Stop, but it could be a fair house rule.

You can be hasted during time stop; it's only that it'd be weird (and broken, of course; further, I agree completely with you that haste, time stop and harm are broken in any case ) for the haste to affect the extra rounds from time stop.

 

[MerakSpielman]

Interesting. Are there any rules against casting a Time Stop inside a Time Stop? Rules, not flavor text...

 

[Darkness]

Interesting. Are there any rules against casting a Time Stop inside a Time Stop? Rules, not flavor text...

I don't see any.

But there probably should be.

 

[Zappo]

You can cast a Time Stop during a Time Stop. It will begin immediately after the current Time Stop ends, as any other spell. Yeah, it's broken, but that's the point isn't it? Take all the most broken spells in D&D and kill any dragon.