Help me Scott Rouse, you're my only hope...

Einan

First Post
Okay, I was a little miffed by the speed in which 4e was announced after 3.5. I was less than thrilled by the overuse of cool. I was not impressed by the marketing.

But I might be ready to embrace it. I like much of what I see coming out of Winter Fantasy.

But, Oh Scott Rouse and others at WOTC, there is one thing you must do if you want to make me love 4e...

You MUST make the bard cool.

No doubt. If you were to release a bard preview that make my beloved class fun to play again, I would be in your court. I would swallow the kool-aid. I would sing the fan-praises.

Oh please, oh please, make my bard cool.

That is all.

Einan
 

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Saturday night, I played in a Dungeon Delve run by Chris Perkins.

Chris said, "I believe that, if you get the bard right, you will have 'solved' D&D."

I raised an eyebrow and asked, "So. Did you get the bard right?"

He grinned and replied, "Yes."
 

Lackhand

First Post
It's cool if he's late to the party, right? :)

My worry is that the bard will be awesome, but someone will stand up and say "OMG, look at that 'bard'! That is no 'bard'! That is a minstrelly-singy-person! I demand a real bard! 4e killed my baby!"

And then I will have to listen to them or add them to my mute list. :(
 

Einan

First Post
He can be as late as he needs to be, as long as he's cool. I get more grief from my gaming group when I play a bard than any time I DM and use any number of sad little D&D tropes. I love me the bard. I love his horrible singing and I love his random knowledge of strange and useless things. I just want him to be cool again.

Queen, I hope, oh I hope that Chris Perkins is right. It would be my fondestest D&D 4e wish.

Einan
 

Filcher

First Post
Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
Saturday night, I played in a Dungeon Delve run by Chris Perkins.

Chris said, "I believe that, if you get the bard right, you will have 'solved' D&D."

I raised an eyebrow and asked, "So. Did you get the bard right?"

He grinned and replied, "Yes."

*laugh* He told us the same thing.
 



Cadfan

First Post
I need the druid, and I need it to be cool. I need it to be able to turn into some kind of predatory cat.

This isn't for me, I don't even care about druids. This is because my fiance wants to play one. And she is much more tolerant of me going off to play games for hours and hours at a time if she comes with me.

For the sake of my relationship, please release the druid soon.
 

Nymrohd

First Post
As Fallen Seraph said they already said the Bard was among the first classes to be done. I'd expect him on the second Dragon or something.
 



fnwc

Explorer
fafhrd said:
Cons are so videogamey! The developers are just bots that sit around and tell the same "secrets" to anyone who walks by.
Or the developers are genuinely passionate about their games and want to tell everyone about them.
 

fafhrd

First Post
fnwc said:
Or the developers are genuinely passionate about their games and want to tell everyone about them.
Sorry. I forgot that the encrusted layers of nonsense and meta-nonsense around here make it difficult to distinguish sarcastic jocularity from actual bitter nerd rage. I'll try to use sarcasm tags in the future.
 

Belorin

Explorer
So if the Bard is one of the first classes done why is it not in the PHB?
If it is an Arcane Leader as is the most commonly held opinion then there should be no reason to hold it back, except maybe it is too cool awsome compared to the new kids Warlock or Warlord. Or it is based on a different power source, Primal or some other.
If it is an Arcane leader I'm good with it, if it's let's say a Primal controller that affects the battlefield with long range debuffs or charms on the enemy that would be great too.
Please let it be the Awesome that it can be!

Bel
 

Charwoman Gene

Adventurer
fafhrd said:
Sorry. I forgot that the encrusted layers of nonsense and meta-nonsense around here make it difficult to distinguish sarcastic jocularity from actual bitter nerd rage. I'll try to use sarcasm tags in the future.

What kind of name is Fafhrd anyway?
Sounds like you tried to create "Fred" in an MMO and that was as close as you could come.
Fritz Leiber, yes irony sarcasm
 

Scott_Rouse

Explorer
4e bard image revealed!

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Aage

First Post
I see three possibilities:

1. The bard is an arcane leader, and will be in phb1, but this is still a secret
2. The bard is an arcane leader, and will not be in phb1, but in the arcane power source book
3. The bard is not arcane, and will be released with phb2...

I for one am certainly hoping for #1
 



Thornir Alekeg

Albatross!
Scott_Rouse said:
4e bard image revealed!
[picture]
I assume this is the marketing strategy to bring more women into the game. It might work with some of the women I know. Of course it would probably work even better if the players looked that way.
 

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