Vuron said:Would you take the class if you couldn't use it's primary ability (spellcasting) for 4 levels?
Vuron said:Not to mention the fact that the silent spell would have to be used on every spell with a verbal component which ends up costing the beguiler a bunch of power.
Increasing the required spell level by one for every single verbal spell is not a bunch of power? It's only not when there are no verbal spells, or unimportant ones. But, don't most of the spells require a verbal component?Heckler said:A +1 to the spell level is hardly "a bunch of power."
I can think of an even bigger problem. Since the beguiler is a spontaneous spellcaster, every Silent spell would have to be cast as a full-round action. So, during combat he'd never be able to do anything when casting besides taking a 5 ft step.Infiniti2000 said:Increasing the required spell level by one for every single verbal spell is not a bunch of power? It's only not when there are no verbal spells, or unimportant ones. But, don't most of the spells require a verbal component?
shilsen said:I can think of an even bigger problem. Since the beguiler is a spontaneous spellcaster, every Silent spell would have to be cast as a full-round action. So, during combat he'd never be able to do anything when casting besides taking a 5 ft step.
Vuron said:Yep!
So it would require a second level spell slot and a full round action to cast a simple sleep spellNo sir that wouldn't be a major power loss
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