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Here Are The Races In The New Eberron Book

According to WotC's Jeremy Crawford, the following eight races appear in Eberron: Rising from the Last War.

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Official versions of previous playtest races: Warforged, Changelings, Kalashtar, Shifters.

Playable versions of: Goblins, Bugbears, Hobgoblins, Orcs.

He goes on to clarifiy that "The playable orc in "Eberron" is a bit different from the orc in "Volo's Guide to Monster's." The playable goblinoids in "Eberron" use the same traits as the ones in "Volo's."
 
Russ Morrissey

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It doesn't even really fit the Forgotten Realms because Forgotten Realms orcs have subraces, like the Grey Orcs who traditional get a Wisdom bonus and have a reputation for Divine Magic. The Grey Orcs are the ones who invaded Faerun from another Orc ruled world during the Orcgate Wars and then summoned their Gods to battle the Gods of the Mulan in what was the most brutal divine war in Toril History since the Gods warred with the Primordials.
Sounds like some mixed continuities/cosmologies there. Grey orcs were 3e cosmology and Primordials were 4e. As much as 4e tried to pretend it was still the same world, retconning that in effectively made it a different cosmology. 5e keeps the timeline changes from 4e, but reverts the cosmology to an enhanced AD&D/Planescape version (so basically goes back to where FR was before 3e, and then adds some bits).

The “Dawn War Cosmology” is now a world-building option in the DMG rather than the assumption of the published settings.
 

Duan'duliir

Devil of Chance
I’m just hoping for a hobgoblin/goblinoid dragonmark to shake things up a bit.
Not likely, They confirmed somewhere (D&D News iirc) that there's be 12 dragonmarks, and there's no reason they'd drop an old one for a new one unless they were advancing the timeline by some drastic amount (which seems unlikely given the slack they got for advancing it even 1 year in 4e, which it seems they've gone back on).
 

Parmandur

Legend
Not likely, They confirmed somewhere (D&D News iirc) that there's be 12 dragonmarks, and there's no reason they'd drop an old one for a new one unless they were advancing the timeline by some drastic amount (which seems unlikely given the slack they got for advancing it even 1 year in 4e, which it seems they've gone back on).
Yeah, agreed.

They didn't advance the timeline in 4E: Eberron has never had any advancing metaplot, the success of which probably influenced the current lack of an advancing timeline in the Forgotten Realms.
 

ChaosOS

Villager
To clarify, 3.5->4e Eberron only had a handful of changes. Feyspires were introduced to integrate Eladrin into the setting in what many fans see as a good addition. Dragonborn were injected into the areas Lizardfolk existed, with the excuse being that the humanoid settlers who have been dealing with the Lizardfolk were just too racist to see the difference. And a small, isolated city of Tieflings was added into Droaam. There were some player options that people had issues with (namely, enabling Dragonmarks for PCs to go on any race), but it's clear that is getting reverted.

The big change that upset people is the cosmology change that happened in 4e, similar to what 4e did to FR. It didn't totally nuke the old cosmology but there were a lot of unpopular changes that have been explicitly reverted. Keith once commentated that the ECG planes section should be "taken out back and shot".
 

Parmandur

Legend
the PHB +1 rule means they have to reprint for the campaigns.

*which saves them development time
** makes the new books less exciting for new options for those who buy everything
People who by everything are not the core market: high school and college students are. They might only have a chance to sell one or two books to them past the core. The reprinted material is quite small, in proportion, anyways.
 

Wrathamon

Explorer
I for one don't like reprinting material. I think its lazy. But, I get why they do it. Wayfinders probably sold rather well for a pdf and on D&D Beyond but the market was very small. Expand that to a larger market (amazon) and you get a new audience ... which needs that material. You can't make a new book and say hey go buy the PDF for the player options, and buy this other book for the other races.

You most likely will never use Wayfinder's again but if its in D&D Beyond that might be okay?
 

gyor

Adventurer
Sounds like some mixed continuities/cosmologies there. Grey orcs were 3e cosmology and Primordials were 4e. As much as 4e tried to pretend it was still the same world, retconning that in effectively made it a different cosmology. 5e keeps the timeline changes from 4e, but reverts the cosmology to an enhanced AD&D/Planescape version (so basically goes back to where FR was before 3e, and then adds some bits).

The “Dawn War Cosmology” is now a world-building option in the DMG rather than the assumption of the published settings.
4e wasn't so much a retconned cosmology as what was left over when the 3e Cosmology got maginuked. I believe the SCAG meantions the Dawn War.
 

hbarsquared

Quantum Chronomancer
I for one don't like reprinting material. I think its lazy. But, I get why they do it. Wayfinders probably sold rather well for a pdf and on D&D Beyond but the market was very small. Expand that to a larger market (amazon) and you get a new audience ... which needs that material. You can't make a new book and say hey go buy the PDF for the player options, and buy this other book for the other races.

You most likely will never use Wayfinder's again but if its in D&D Beyond that might be okay?
Keeping in mind that the success of Wayfinder's was most likely an influence on a full-fledged book getting published. The whole, "vote with your dollar.". If we hadn't bought Wayfinder's last year, we might not be seeing Eberron today.

Also, races (including dragonmarks) will be the only things reprinted - I think everything else is unique to Wayfinder's. The descriptions of Eberron nations will be different/expanded, different magic items, different Sharn "gazeteer," and not the cool alternative rules.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Keeping in mind that the success of Wayfinder's was most likely an influence on a full-fledged book getting published. The whole, "vote with your dollar.". If we hadn't bought Wayfinder's last year, we might not be seeing Eberron today.

Also, races (including dragonmarks) will be the only things reprinted - I think everything else is unique to Wayfinder's. The descriptions of Eberron nations will be different/expanded, different magic items, different Sharn "gazeteer," and not the cool alternative rules.
The magic item stuff might get ported over, since they tested it. But the Unearthed Arcana articles represent a small part the original book.
 

Connorsrpg

Adventurer
And here we go again. Page 1 and already way off topic. Why is it when Wizards brings out product A certain people have to get on here and say, 'Why aren't they bringing out product B. I prefer product C.' etc. Debate those in other forums. Can't forums about one particular product stay about that product? Sheesh.
 

Connorsrpg

Adventurer
And yes... another thread about product A but people hijack for the products they want to see. Nothing to contribute on THIS product.
Sure hoping the moderators start changing things here. Used to love the ENWorld forums. :(
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
I've run Planescape in 5E with minimal work; just had to fit Factions into the 5E rules, and folks have already done that work for me. (Alternative) Only think missing is psionics, which I've never cared about that much, anyway, and there are DMsGuild releases plus the Mystic class that cover enough of that anyway.

Dark Sun is definitely a little harder, I'd imagine.
Ive been running a Dark Sun game last couple of months. I too did next to no conversion. My players arent too familiar with the setting so that helped. I think its more about capturing the feel of a setting rather than worrying too much about mechanics. I used psionics but very limited. Psionics after 2E just felt tacked on as just another form of magic. At least in 2E you knew you were in trouble if you ran into a Mind Flayer and werent at least a wild talent in any game outside of DS as you had no defense against them. Regardless I think its more about working with what you have instead of worrying about whats missing.
 
Does Crawford state which Shifters we are getting in the book? I know there's several different "breeds", but I think in the 4e Eberron book they only gave you two types.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Does Crawford state which Shifters we are getting in the book? I know there's several different "breeds", but I think in the 4e Eberron book they only gave you two types.
Nope, very bare bones information so far. They probably won't ratchet up the information game on this until after the Baldur's Gate adventure is in the market.
 

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