Heroes Season 1(#20)---4/30/07-'(Five Years Gone)String Theory'

occam said:
This is so frustrating; every time I try to post, my post disappears. I don't know why this keeps happening. Anyway, I have information, from a very reliable source associated with the show, about what happens to Sylar. Peter and Hiro j


If you actually are going to post a future spoiler, please post it in Spoiler tags...
 

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Taelorn76 said:
Yes NY blows up, but maybe Nathan becomes President, not Sylar
Nathan did become president. Sylar said that he'd turned traitor to the hero-mutants before he took over. Or words to that effect.
 

Ed_Laprade said:
Nathan did become president. Sylar said that he'd turned traitor to the hero-mutants before he took over. Or words to that effect.

He did say that, but that does not mean he became President. Just that he was turning against supers. We see that he doesn't accept it now, and he is not in any office.

Or Nathan becomes President and Sylar never takes him out either before or after Nathan gets into office.
 


Vocenoctum said:
You can create an intricately carved scenario whereby Peter had gained Candaces and Claires and Teds powers and for some reason masked as Sylar when he blew up, but the easiest way seems to be that FutureHiro knows what he saw.

I can't see this as possible at all. "I stabbed him, he healed" is a lot different from "I stabbed him, left, then at some later point, he was alive again."

Yes. I can do just that. I can posit arguments which pokes holes in the infallibility of these prophecies to remind people that in a show about plot twists and clever story resolution - the simple way ain't the only way that these prophecies will be resolved.

And the whole Occam's razor argument has been resorted to in the past on these matters. Say, regarding the theory about the effect of Candice upon Sylar's appearance and what was the true meaning of Sylar's painting.
My interpretation was dismissed as "too complicated" on these forums a week ago.

And I was right. This show is about twists in time and differences in perception. These prophetic visions are difficult to evade - but they are possible to cheat.
 
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Steel_Wind said:
Yes. I can do just that. I can posit arguments which pokes holes in the infallibility of these prophecies to remind people that in a show about plot twists and clever story resolution - the simple way ain't the only way that these prophecies will be resolved.
Until countered by evidence in the show, using theories to debate the merits of theories doesn't really have much impact.

And the whole Occam's razor argument has been resorted to in the past on these matters. Say, regarding the theory about the effect of Candice upon Sylar's appearance and what was the true meaning of Sylar's painting.
My interpretation was dismissed as "too complicated" on these forums a week ago.

We're looking at different threads then man. No one dismissed the theory, no one said it was "too complicated". Someone put forth that they didn't think Candace's power worked on camera, maybe that's what you're thinking of?

And, really, what does any of this have to do with the topic at hand? I'm talking about what FutureHiro said and saw, not talking about the paintings lack of definition. There is nothing to hint that Sylar has illusion powers before taking them from Candace, which happens after the bomb.

And I was right. This show is about twists in time and differences in perception. These prophetic visions are difficult to evade - but they are possible to cheat.

The paintings are open to interpretation, though the dreams seem to be half-wrong at least. As such, the painting of Exploding Man doesn't really define who it is, or where even. The only thing that's hard to get around is the actual "NY Explodes" floor, and heck, maybe Floors fall under a different rule.
 

I am still thinking that these painting will stiil/have already come true but not in the way we think. Hiro is able to manipulate sub-time streams (as with the bullet) so what we are seeing with the 5 years into the future paintings are images from Hiro's timeline, not everyone elses. Because they do come true for Hiro (the bomb, a Nathan presidency) and he is a part of them, Issac was able to paint them as true. But Hiro can change the timeline for others so the bomb can be stopped without invalidating Issac's painting.
 

My scar theory for Peter - it is from when he exploded, and since he can control his powers, maybe he deliberately didn't heal that part of it in order to remind himself it happened - out of guilt... he certainly seems to feel pretty guilty about it.
 

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