Dragonstriker
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This is a REALLY bad idea.
Hiding the PHB from players - Cool or Restrictive?
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MyISPHatesENWorld
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I'd let PCs look at the MM too, but I won't be a monster for another 2 days, so I just voted to let them see the PHB.
Ginnel
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I assume you mean you will say you can have a choice out of these classes and these races the setting is like this what character would you like to play and then go, here read the PHB, the applicable sections only for your character and then the rules sections.
Its a neat idea and one that in all likelihood can only be done at the start of a new system, it helps accentuate a roleplaying esque type game by letting players focus on their character rather than the stats (a suggestion I am all in favour of) In my opinion a knowledge of the rules will encourage certain combintaions whether its min-maxing (a dirty word/phrase) or the opposite which will influence character concepts.
No one can win D&D (I feel that the word Game in RPG is some what of a misnomer as it suggests winning) so whats the point in making your character the best, by encouraging power gaming (not saying that viewing the PHB before hand especially encourages this) you are, as you put it "well done you've taken some of the r out or rpg."
Its a neat idea and one that in all likelihood can only be done at the start of a new system, it helps accentuate a roleplaying esque type game by letting players focus on their character rather than the stats (a suggestion I am all in favour of) In my opinion a knowledge of the rules will encourage certain combintaions whether its min-maxing (a dirty word/phrase) or the opposite which will influence character concepts.
No one can win D&D (I feel that the word Game in RPG is some what of a misnomer as it suggests winning) so whats the point in making your character the best, by encouraging power gaming (not saying that viewing the PHB before hand especially encourages this) you are, as you put it "well done you've taken some of the r out or rpg."
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Ginnel
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Family said:
what type of game does an RPG suggest you are playing?
I think most players can figure out a character with a bit of fluff provided.
example of fluff
"a wizard is a character trained in the arcane arts he casts spells to affect combat and also has a number of utility spells to aid the party, their lack of martial combat expertise means most wizards wear little or no armor and stick to the back lines of a fight"
"Tieflings are humans who because of their heritage have a demonic taint to them which is shown in some obvious physical traits such as horns and tails or a different colour in skin or eyes, because of their background in the world they are mistrusted or even revered in some parts of the world."
or whatever fluff is appropirate to your campaign, its exactly the kind of thing you would say to a new player who doesn't know any of the rules, you don't cloud their mind with stats and numbers you light their imagination with background and concepts.
Family
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Derren said:
http://www.bluetrain.co.za/default.htm
/These people would like to have a word with you on the topic of "ultimate railroads".
Let them play the style of play they want. If you want to disencourage Power Gaming, reward Role Playing.
Some Power Gamers will always be Power Gamers though, that's why I have two groups. Old group of friends who played games like Baldur's Gate before they played D&D so they are power gamers; and a new group of mostly 1st-timers who don't know game mechanics and I plan to mould them into role-players
That being said, I don't think it matters how much of the books they read. You can restrict it as much as you like, they'll either be disgruntled by it or they'll accept it
Some Power Gamers will always be Power Gamers though, that's why I have two groups. Old group of friends who played games like Baldur's Gate before they played D&D so they are power gamers; and a new group of mostly 1st-timers who don't know game mechanics and I plan to mould them into role-players
That being said, I don't think it matters how much of the books they read. You can restrict it as much as you like, they'll either be disgruntled by it or they'll accept it
Family said:http://www.bluetrain.co.za/default.htm
/These people would like to have a word with you on the topic of "ultimate railroads".
Pff, you can make this train leave the tracks by leaving a few coins on the track (Yes, I know, Mythbusters disputes that...). Most DMs are not that cheap. You need at least a pizza and/or several beer.
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