High level chr 11 sorceror spells?

[Particle_Man]

Could a sufficiently high level sorceror with a Chr 11 (for whatever reason), but with the proper feats, cast a still, silent, maximized, empowered magic missle? Or are high level spell slots only fillable by non-metamagic'd* 1st level spells (or slightly metamagic'd 0 level spells) if you have chr 11?

*with the exception of metamagic feats, like Eschew Materials, that don't actually change the spell level slot used.

 

[UltimaGabe]

Although you need a Charisma of 18 to cast 8th-level spells, an Empowered, Maximized, Stilled, Silent Magic Missile ISN'T an 8th-level spell- it's a 1st-level spell that takes up an 8th-level slot. So, therefore, you COULD cast lower-level spells metamagicked if all you had was a low charisma.

As for why you'd be a high-level Sorcerer with such a Charisma, however, is beyond me.

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

A meta-magick'ed (but not heightened) 1st-level spell is still a 1st level spell, even if it uses a 9th level spell slot.

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[HeavyG]

As for why you'd be a high-level Sorcerer with such a Charisma, however, is beyond me.

Charisma damage/drain ?

 

[UltimaGabe]

Charisma damage/drain ?

That could be. The answer I was dreading, however, was something along the lines of "Well, before he bought that Cloak of Charisma, it used to be a 9."

 

[Staffan]

A meta-magick'ed (but not heightened) 1st-level spell is still a 1st level spell, even if it uses a 9th level spell slot.

With the exception of the Heightened Spell feat, which increases the spell's actual level, not just the slot used.

 

[irdeggman]

Also the character can substitute lower level spells for higher level ones. So in effect the character can still cast the same number of spells per day, they are however to a spell level restricted by the charisma score. Essentially the sorcerer gets more lower level spells per day.