Hobgoblin PC Question

[ConcreteBuddha]

Ya, that does make a slight difference.

Ya, the extra BAB, saves, and skill points that come with HD is kinda neat. Combine that with the bonuses to Str and Con, and you got a great melee character.

 

[ConcreteBuddha]

The stigma of the race was why I opted to try my hand at one, then I kicked myself in the butt due to the lack of info I had on them besides the MM.

I do appreciate the help on this one....

Badger

Honestly, having played a Hobgoblin paladin, I can truly say that they are a tad more powerful than the standard races. Social stigma only goes so far as a restriction.

The hobgoblin's +2 Dex, +2 Con and darkvision is way better than a half-orc's stats (a race that suffers the same sort of prejudice).

I think hobgoblins are not powerful enough to be a +1 race, but too powerful to be a +0 race. As a rule zero, I would either make them a bit more powerful to be a +1, or make them a bit less powerful to be +0.

Just my humble opinion...

 

[Badger]

So besides the +2s to the stats and Darkvision 60', is there any other abilities the race has as a racial trait?

Almost finished the char sheet and this is the last detail I am waiting on before shooting it off.

Badger

 

[SouthernPride]

I belive thats it, I don't got a MM on hand. Ask your DM via phone/internet to dig it up real fast.

 

[RogueJK]

So besides the +2s to the stats and Darkvision 60', is there any other abilities the race has as a racial trait?

Almost finished the char sheet and this is the last detail I am waiting on before shooting it off.

Badger

As Dr_Rictus said, they get a +4 racial bonus to Move Silently.

Also, a Hobgoblin's favored class is Fighter.


FYI: info on their racial traits can be found in both the Monster Manual (pages 119-120) and the SRD (http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdmonstersh.html).

 

[kreynolds]

No

Yes.

it's a +0 race

No.

unless they changed it in a newer copy

It was changed in the Dragon Mag article, which followed the base ECL mod=hit die (which doesn't work very well). Do I agree with it? Not really. Also, the FRCS lists it as a +1, which I'm inclined to agree with.

 

[SouthernPride]

*Picks face up off the floor*

 

[kreynolds]

*Picks face up off the floor*

LOL It's not a big deal. The Dragon Mag ECLs aren't official extensions to the rules. They're just playtest suggestions. You know, where the people that actually get paid to develop this crap don't do their jobs and instead hoist it upon the community as if it would be an honor to participate it doing their work for them?

 

[SouthernPride]

lol, ya, They got slack on ECL's IMO I think the Half-Dragon is a slap in the face. Conan O'Brian would be a better Creative Director

 

[kreynolds]

Actually, I don't really have much of a problem with the ECL +4 of the half-dragon template, so long as you're big enough to have wings. If you're not big enough, I'd place it around +3.