House of the Dragon spoiler thread

Best dragon scenes ever. Maybe house red could stop being stupid though? It was all a bit predictable, other than the king dying.
Not that I think the king is actually dead.....but that's what they want us to think. I've not read these books, and steadfastly avoid spoilers.....but we didn't se him DEAD, so he's alive because that's how tv and movies work.
 

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Not that I think the king is actually dead.....but that's what they want us to think. I've not read these books, and steadfastly avoid spoilers.....but we didn't se him DEAD, so he's alive because that's how tv and movies work.
hehe when Aemond points to the smoking husk of dragon in the crater its fall just made, I just assume Aegon was crushed flat. But apparently, he might have survived....which of course is tv speak for "of course he survived"
 

I enjoyed the episode a lot.

As for Aegon surviving, I'm pretty sure you can hear him wheezing. Also Aemond has his sword drawn like he was planning to finish the job just as Cole turns up.

I really like the way the previous episode started with the Bracken / Blackwood feud, and how that's been portrayed throughout the episodes. From how they're just using the war as a way to continue their own personal feud, to how Daemon didn't even know which house was meant to be on his side.
 

My only explanation was that she didn't think her dragon could outrun Aemond's....but that isn't really portrayed, in fact it seems very intentional that Rhaenys consciously turns around to charge at Aemond rather than running away. I was screaming at the tv when it happened.... "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!!"
There's no possibility Meleys could have outrun Vhagar.

Larger dragons are faster dragons. Period, end of story. We saw this with how incredibly easily Vhagar caught up to Lucerys' little dragon. Plus it's simple biomechanics. Bigger wings, more mass, similar body plan, you're going to be way, way faster. Also potentially stealthier as they'd need to flap far less.

So I think she made the correct initial tactical calculus, which was that she needed to engage and outfight Vhagar and the less experienced Aemond, otherwise she'd just have been caught, and not that far along, either. And she was right. She succeeded in engaging and outfighting Vhagar and Aemond, and crashed them into the ground rather brutally.

Her tactics fell apart when she didn't either use that opportunity to finish them off, and didn't keep track of them, and instead sort of screwed around for a minute before deciding to head home. I'm not entirely sure I buy that she would have made that particular mistake, because she just seems way too savvy for that, but perhaps she was very shaken up by fighting two dragons in a row? Probably never happened to her before.

Also, if she had just gained altitude and then sprinted for Dragonstone, I think Aemond would have been savvy enough that he wouldn't have followed, because he is surely aware that there are a potential THREE other dragons within an hour or three of flying time, and thus who might turn up at any moment.
 

There's no possibility Meleys could have outrun Vhagar.

Larger dragons are faster dragons. Period, end of story. We saw this with how incredibly easily Vhagar caught up to Lucerys' little dragon. Plus it's simple biomechanics. Bigger wings, more mass, similar body plan, you're going to be way, way faster. Also potentially stealthier as they'd need to flap far less.

So I think she made the correct initial tactical calculus, which was that she needed to engage and outfight Vhagar and the less experienced Aemond, otherwise she'd just have been caught, and not that far along, either. And she was right. She succeeded in engaging and outfighting Vhagar and Aemond, and crashed them into the ground rather brutally.

Her tactics fell apart when she didn't either use that opportunity to finish them off, and didn't keep track of them, and instead sort of screwed around for a minute before deciding to head home. I'm not entirely sure I buy that she would have made that particular mistake, because she just seems way too savvy for that, but perhaps she was very shaken up by fighting two dragons in a row? Probably never happened to her before.

Also, if she had just gained altitude and then sprinted for Dragonstone, I think Aemond would have been savvy enough that he wouldn't have followed, because he is surely aware that there are a potential THREE other dragons within an hour or three of flying time, and thus who might turn up at any moment.
Ya, wasn't thrilled with her decision making after she fought them both......either go right home, or burn the army more, or go after the fallen king. She did need room to turn, which I thought was great writing, btw. So, I don't know....but ya, if she was going home, she should have done so immediately.

Really hated the dragon falling on the castle bit, seemed like too convenient by the writers, but it is forgivable....
 



So I think she made the correct initial tactical calculus, which was that she needed to engage and outfight Vhagar and the less experienced Aemond, otherwise she'd just have been caught, and not that far along, either. And she was right. She succeeded in engaging and outfighting Vhagar and Aemond, and crashed them into the ground rather brutally.
This is the important part, I think. In the initial struggle between the two dragons, her dragon arguably got the better of Vhagar and it isn't unreasonable to think she could have won out with her experience commanding her dragon so I don't so much have a problem with her going back to fight them again. The part where I had trouble suspending disbelief a bit was how Vhagar ambushed her from below as she flew over the keep. She was looking around and couldn't locate them and it's not like Vhagar wasn't ginormous enough to be clearly seen if in the air, so why fly over somewhere with a blind spot like the cliff behind the keep?
 

The part where I had trouble suspending disbelief a bit was how Vhagar ambushed her from below as she flew over the keep. She was looking around and couldn't locate them and it's not like Vhagar wasn't ginormous enough to be clearly seen if in the air, so why fly over somewhere with a blind spot like the cliff behind the keep?
Clearly Vhagar was trained in stealth by the great great great grandfather of the Ironborn that hid his ship from Danerys' dragon in wide open water. Great stealth flows in that family!
 


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