D&D (2024) How D&D Beyond Will Handle Access To 2014 Rules

D&D Beyond has announced how the transition to the new 2024 edition will work on the platform, and how legacy access to the 2014 version of D&D will be implemented.

• You will still be able to access the 2014 Basic Rules and core rulebooks.
• You will still be able to make characters using the 2014 Player's Handbook.
• Existing home-brew content will not be impacted.
• These 2014 rules will be accessible and will be marked with a 'legacy' badge: classes, subclasses, species, backgrounds, feats, monsters.
• Tooltips will reflect the 2024 rules.
• Monster stat blocks will be updated to 2024.
• There will be terminology changes (Heroic Inspiration, Species, etc.)

D&D (2024) - Wizards of the Coast Backtracks on D&D Beyond and 2014 Content

Wizards of the Coast posted an overnight update stating that they are not going forward with previously released plans to require those wishing to use some 2014 content on D&D Beyond to use the Homebrew function to manually enter it. Instead, all the content including spells and magic items will...

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[Imaro]

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not really an answer, the question was not whether the SRD mattered or not

And I'm talking about where the SRD came from and who created it... its not that hard to understand.

 

[mamba]

And I'm talking about where the SRD came from and who created it... its not that hard to understand.

Given that you did not actually answer it despite you being the one asking the question, maybe it is not so easy after all...

I answered that already, WotC created the SRD, they deserve the credit for doing so. Beyond this, in which other way does it matter that 5e came first, the SRD came after it or that WotC created it? If any of that were different but the SRD were the same, what would it change?

 

[Imaro]

Given that you did not actually answer it despite you being the one asking the question, maybe it is not so easy after all...

I answered that already, WotC created the SRD, they deserve the credit for doing so. Beyond this, in which other way does it matter that 5e came first, the SRD came after it or that WotC created it? If any of that were different but the SRD were the same, what would it change?

The SRD is derived from their game (without 5e it wouldn't be the same and/or might not exist at all) if you cant follow why that matters I cant help you.

You've already decided it doesn't matter beyond the things you listed for you..soI cant tell you why it matters for you...so what are you asking me exactly?

 

[mamba]

The SRD is derived from their game (without 5e it wouldn't be the same and/or might not exist at all) if you cant follow why that matters I cant help you.

You've already decided it doesn't matter beyond the things you listed for you..soI cant tell you why it matters for you...so what are you asking me exactly?

I have not decided anything, I just cannot think of any other way in which it is relevant. I am open to a convincing argument, you simply are not making any argument at all. You just say 'if you do not know already, I cannot help you' which sounds an awful lot like you have nothing to offer, convincing or otherwise.

I guess I am asking you in which way does it matter to you and in which way does it matter to what can be done with the SRD. If it does not have any impact on what you can do with the SRD, then it is of no real relevance as far as I am concerned. Then you are back to 'the SRD itself matters', which I agree with.

 

[SlyFlourish]

I would never treat them as "lesser". In fact some parts are superior!.

However, I look at it like this (to use Tales of the Valiant as an example).

Tales of the Valiant is compatible with 5e.

not...

Tales of the Valiant is 5e.

Having said that, there is no judgement of quality in either of those statements. In reference to the rest of your post, I pull ideas and parts from almost every compatible source out there, and thoroughly enjoy the breadth of options.

Right. Nothing is 5e except 5e as a platform of generally compatible rules. Tales of the Valiant is compatible with 5e. A5E is compatible with 5e. D&D 2014 is compatible with 5e (and is also the root of the 5e ruleset), and D&D 2024 is compatible with 5e. But D&D isn’t 5e. We need not think of it that way. We can think of 5e as a TTRPG platform on which many different games, supplements, adventures, and sourcebooks sit.

 

[SlyFlourish]

So I do think we need a shorthand for 5e d&d derived/compatible/similar. I find labeling that 5e to be misleading and making for annoying conversation.

I could get behind the label 5e3pp. Mostly because I’m sick and tired of talking d&d 5e and seeing non-d&d 5e products taking over the discussion (there’s a few posters who constantly do this).

Why not call it D&D? Or D&D 2014 or D&D 2024 as WOTC calls it?

 

[SlyFlourish]

Sorry I'm reading my brand new 5e corebooks. Thought this was self evident enough it didn't need a reply but... because none of it would exist without their SRD. If it didn't matter there wouldn't have been such an uproar about the OGL and WotC trying to change it.

The OGL thing mattered because they tried to take back the open 5e platform and make it just D&D again. Thats why Morrus went through the trouble to make another open disconnected 5e SRD — the A5E SRD. Now we have two 5e SRDs (and the A5E one is vastly superior btw). Black Flag was going to be independent too but didn’t need to be since the 5.1 SRD went into the CC. Soon we’ll have a third independent SRD. Thats all part of 5e. The open SRDs, the core books from several companies, and all the supplements and other publications.

 

[mamba]

Black Flag was going to be independent too but didn’t need to be since the 5.1 SRD went into the CC.

are they not independent regardless? They released their SRD under ORC, I don’t think they could do that if they were dependent on the 5e SRD (CC or OGL)

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[SlyFlourish]

Sorry I'm reading my brand new 5e corebooks.

“Compatible” core books. Of course, I don’t know if you mean Tales of the Valiant

are they not independent regardless? They released their SRD under ORC, I don’t think they could do that if they were dependent on the 5e SRD (CC or OGL).

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it references the 5.1 SRD under its cc license. You can do that as long as it’s a CC BY 4.0. See the second line on the title page of the link you put up.

 

[SlyFlourish]

Your argument is focused on profit and notoriety it seems, not on providing different rules. Because different rules were ALWAYS being provided, so nothing actually ever changed.

Sorry. You completely lost me. If you’re saying 5e became an independent platform before A5E and ToV, I can get behind that.