D&D 5E How do you do Bastions?

[Horwath]

I can see how that would ease some issues, but it would do so by increasing the bastion's distance from the setting, which unfortunately is precisely the part of the rules I don't like.

maybe at 9th level you could have one facility that gives mobility to bastion.
so you sacrifice some utility for mobile HQ.

 

[Micah Sweet]

maybe at 9th level you could have one facility that gives mobility to bastion.
so you sacrifice some utility for mobile HQ.

Or you could use a mobile bastion, like a ship. A teleporting castle feels like a very high level option.

 

[Andras]

Outland's style walking castle.

 

[Horwath]

Or you could use a mobile bastion, like a ship. A teleporting castle feels like a very high level option.

I mentioned that before. It works for coastal/island hopping campaign only.

I mean, you get teleport at 9th level, so...

 

[Micah Sweet]

I mentioned that before. It works for coastal/island hopping campaign only.

I mean, you get teleport at 9th level, so...

Can you teleport a castle at 9th level? I've never seen magic like that, or something creating a flying citadel, as anything less than ritual or even epic magic.

Or if you prefer, what about some kind of airship? Level Up has rules for those. No coast required.

 

[Horwath]

Can you teleport a castle at 9th level? I've never seen magic like that, or something creating a flying citadel, as anything less than ritual or even epic magic.

I'm just saying that is the level that somewhat serious teleport magic comes into play.

Or if you prefer, what about some kind of airship? Level Up has rules for those. No coast required.

hmm, yes, but weight limit is a lot lower for airship than a (regular)ship. Unless we again use magic.

Great Republic (1853 clipper) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

something that could be done in D&D general setting(mostly):
cargo 5000t

Hindenburg-class airship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

cargo 232t

that is a big difference.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I'm just saying that is the level that somewhat serious teleport magic comes into play.

hmm, yes, but weight limit is a lot lower for airship than a (regular)ship. Unless we again use magic.

Great Republic (1853 clipper) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

something that could be done in D&D general setting(mostly):
cargo 5000t

Hindenburg-class airship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

cargo 232t

that is a big difference.

If you are considering an airship, I assume magic is a factor.

Just like its a factor in a teleporting (or walking) castle.

 

[Distracted DM]

Nothing there to say the bastion can’t be levelled to the ground. As with the attack event, the NPCs can all be killed and the facilities all destroyed. The player hasn’t “lost” the bastion, they are still the proud owner of a smoking hole in the ground.

A facility damaged by an attack comes back online automatically after one turn. I really don't want to be the one "defending" the bastion rules, but I feel like people aren't reading the whole thing through and I'm not going to copy+paste the entire chapter here.

The "bastion can't be destroyed" thing isn't a joke or exaggeration. With the exceptions of what I noted earlier re: Fall of a Bastion, a Bastion can't be lost. Your Bastion being attacked is at worst a temporary inconvenience.

 

[Horwath]

If you are considering an airship, I assume magic is a factor.

Just like its a factor in a teleporting (or walking) castle.

then;

walking/swimming castle: 5th level

flying/submarince castle: 9th level

teleporting castle: 13th level

extraplanar castle: 17th level

 

[Micah Sweet]

then;

walking/swimming castle: 5th level

flying/submarince castle: 9th level

teleporting castle: 13th level

extraplanar castle: 17th level

You don't think scale makes a difference?