How is the Paladin?

[Particle_Man]

The paladin is great but could use a little clarity at two points:

The divine mount can be summoned to one's side. Is this like a teleport mount to you spell? Is the mount otherwise elsewhere on the world or does it go to another, perhaps celestial, plane? Can a mount be dismissed (temporarily) and then summoned to one's side again?

At 20th level, the special power of the paladin seems woefully weak. One gets a banishment that probably won't work and loses one's smite power when using the banishment, and sadly one doesn't, as written, even have the option of not using the banishment. As written is an argument for multi-classing out of paladin after level 19.

 

[Volaran]

At 20th level, the special power of the paladin seems woefully weak. One gets a banishment that probably won't work and loses one's smite power when using the banishment, and sadly one doesn't, as written, even have the option of not using the banishment. As written is an argument for multi-classing out of paladin after level 19.

I cannot agree with this. The banishment should be clarified, and I agree that it would be nice to have the option not to use it. I would certainly run it as such.

However, smite still works normally against non-outsiders, and the increased DR, and automatically maximized lay on hands and positive energy channeling are all quite nice.

That said, unless Crothian expects his campaign to go to 20th level, this is probably a non-issue.

 

[Crothian]

We are running the Kingmaker, I'm not sure how high a level it goes. I am planning on sucking out ever ounce of XP I can though

 

[Crothian]

Is there anything third party for Pathfinder that would be good for a paladin?

 

[ruemere]

Advanced Player Guide is to bring a lot of new feats, many of them enhancing aspects of martial classes (mobility, team feats). Other than that, you don't really need anything - between Divine Bond (the sword), Lay on Hands (self-healing) and Smite current version of Paladin is incredibly self-sufficient.

Just pick an item and put your faith into your divine patron...

Regards,
Ruemere

PS. One of the coolest moment from the past - assassination attempt on a paladin in a public bath. The guy picked a bench (improvised reach weapon) and started smiting (you can have several smites active at the same time). Pity, it was not part of my game.

 

[Crothian]

I'm coming up with good idea but I think I need to wait and see what the new book brings option wise. I also want to see what the other players are bring to the table as hopefully they will cover some areas my character could potentially cover and I know not to go the route.

 

[milo]

The UndeFEATable series has some decent feats for Paladin. The only other one from the series that I liked was the fighter book. They are either $.99 or $1.99 downloadable PDF from the Paizo website.
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The rest of the books weren't horrible, those are just my two favorite. The ranger book is probably me third favorite.
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[The Black Kestrel]

Gun Metal Games' Class Options II: Paladins Prevail is the only one I am aware of for 3PP Paladin material. It's an excellent product and I recommend you pick it up.

 

[Lagros]

check out the "new" old paladins ...

I converted the 1st/2nd edition paladins from Plethora of paladins article in an old Dragon magazine. To see them goro Pathfinder Database - Your source for Pathfinder RPG content!. I will be posting the last 2 this week...