I got kicked out of my group!

I do feel sorry for you man. We'd be in the same boat probably if we had a player that couldn't show up regularly.

In any case, by the time you get back to gaming, you'll be ready to go! :)

Good luck,

jh
P.S. I got 'not invited back' to a game 19 years ago. I was a 14 year old kid and was pretty immature (i'm a LOT better now since the treatments!)
 

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Never been axed, but I've almost always been the DM.

Back during the 1e days, I belonged to my high schools Dungeons & Dragons club (sorta like a Chess club, but we played D&D and other RPG's). Every Tuesday the school had a scheduled 45 minute Home Room Period, and if you didn't belong to one of the school clubs (Chess, Choir, D&D, FCA, FFA, Muse Machine, etc.) Home Room was just like being in Study Hall (no talking, sit there quietly and do some sort of schoolwork or whatever).

The D&D club was run by one of the English teachers ( a Mr. Stoner, just Stoner hereafter)who was into gaming. Out of approximately 50 student members, he allowed us to form into our own groups while he ran a group of his own. So long as we were playing an RPG, he left us to our own devices. It met every other Home Room period.

In the 86/87 school year, when I was a Junior, the club had it's first ever female members join the club. There were two of them, both Seniors and friends with one another, and knew absolutely nothing about RPG's (I figure they joined just to get out of Home Room).

Both ended up in my group (I was DM). Both played female characters. Near the end of the shool year, the party got captured by a group of orcs. Once the party was dragged back to the orc lair, general torture and rapantine ensued, as orcs are just that way (as strongly hinted at by the MM and literature).

Next time the club met, I was not so pleasantly greeted by Stoner. Turns out said females felt like I was picking on them personally for being female. They said something at home which in turn got called into the school and somehow a church(es?) was involved.

Stoner read me the riot act wanting to know what I was thinking about having orcs engaging in rapantine. He didn't like my response about playing them as nasty as their implied portrayal from published sources, mostly because he had to fight the church groups to get the club into the school (whenever it was started, I'd joined as a Freshman). Only to then fight both the school and the church groups again to keep it going because of my portrayal of orcs, which was not the kind of exposure the game needed in a school setting (I was told that kind of play was fine outside of school).

Stoner threatened to he should "Blackball" me from the club. He didn't, and if I'd thought about it at the time, I coulda threw into his face, he never supervised any of the groups playing, and had no established Guidelines or Rules of Conduct other than we play an RPG. Which may be the reason I wasn't thrown out of the club.

Come my Senior year (87/88), the club was restricted to upper classman only, and Stoner ran the game. He ran Expedition to the Barrier Peaks with a party of around 25 characters. I think I rolled my dice maybe 12 times throughout the year (counting club meetings only, of course).

Oh and far as the orcs actions went, it was just a simple generalized statement; "The orcs torture and rape your characters.", no details or anything explicit.
 


I was about, oh, 17 or 18 perhaps. The local hobby shop had a game that met at 6PM after the store closed and ran to about 9-10PM (the GM was the store manager). I'd been playing in it for about three or four months with no problems mentioned to me. I didn't have a car then and public transport didn't run to that area, so Mom drops me off as usual. It's during the winter, so it's dark and on top of that it's raining cats and dogs. None of the other stores in this isolated little strip mall are open past 5pm.

Mom drops me off, waves, and drives off as usual and I knock on the door to be let in. I wait. I knock. And wait some more. I can hear them playing, and see the back room is occupied. I knock again and wait. It's damn cold outside. Finally one of the players comes up there and tells me the GM says I can't play anymore. The door is not opened so I can use the phone to call Mom. (Cell phones hadn't been invented yet). So I have to walk up to a gas station to get change and use the phone. I go back to the hobby store later; no explanation is ever given for why I'm not allowed back at the time. Later, I am invited back when another GM takes over. That was over 20 years ago and I still barely speak to the former GM.
 

I've had one group dissolve (somewhat because of my bad DMing) and been forced to leave a group.

The first was when I took over for our long time DM, who needed a break. This guy (Graf) was the best DM I have ever played with, and he is the kind of guy who knew everything about the world he ran. He had layer upon layer of story that we never found out about.

Well, when I became DM, he was a player and he wanted to know everything about my game. The problem was I didn't know, and I felt like he was 'stealing my DM thunder' by generally showing everyone what a crap DM I was.

I slowly improved my knowledge of rules / dming, and then gave it up to join another group as a player. The thing is, I did exactly the same thing to the new DM (John) as Graf did to me.

Gotta love the circle of life!

So remember everyone, don't try to be co-DM unless the DM actually wants you to !

-Tatsu
 

Roadkill101 said:
Oh and far as the orcs actions went, it was just a simple generalized statement; "The orcs torture and rape your characters.", no details or anything explicit.
Had you ever made a generalized comment to male players that their male characters had been raped? It happens in prison, it happens in POW situations.... its completely realistic. I bet you haven't.
 

Roadkill101 said:
Stoner threatened to he should "Blackball" me from the club. He didn't, and if I'd thought about it at the time, I coulda threw into his face, he never supervised any of the groups playing, and had no established Guidelines or Rules of Conduct other than we play an RPG. Which may be the reason I wasn't thrown out of the club.

Just going on what you've stated there, I have to side with the teacher on that one. If you need explicit rules to tell you 'don't tell the new female players (or any players you don't know personally for some time) their character have just been raped', regardless of what is stated or implied about orcs, 'blackballing' would be the least they should have done. It's kinda like we don't have explicit laws that say 'Don't spit in people's faces as they walk past'.

I wonder: did those women ever play again?
 

Roadkill101 said:
Oh and far as the orcs actions went, it was just a simple generalized statement; "The orcs torture and rape your characters.", no details or anything explicit.
But what does this add to the game -- why rape and torture instead of just torture? I'm with Kahuna and WayneLigon here. I don't see how this was even remotely appropriate or necessary.

Edit: Hell, why was it even necessary to have the characters be tortured?
 
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Never kicked out of a game, but came close once over a decade ago. The 2 of us just over-reacted. It blew over, and we kepyt gaming that night; but the seeds of gaming discontent later grew into mighty trees of quitting and restriction.

The worst experience I've had along these lines was one night a couple of years ago when all but one of my "friends" didn't show up for a game I was running. The one, who was hosting us at his house, wisely decided to spend the evening with his girlfriend rather than play a solo game. Shortly thereafter, I took a year off GMing for that group. Some of those jerks still can't figure out why I haven't run their favorite game for them since then. Then they quit. The lesson to me was to place my individual enjoyment first & foremost at all times with respect to this hobby. Luckily, it never happened again. I think I would quit GMing for the ones that are left for good if it did.

So, take this as a chance to place yourself first.
 

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