I review the Acquisitions Incorporated book on twitter

I understand it it's too much to disclose before the book officially releases, but if it isn't, what classes would you recommend for Verdan PCs? Any further tips for playing them?
 

mach1.9pants

Adventurer
Thanks for that quick looksee, confirmed this is not my sort of thing, knowing nothing about AInc. Hopefully it really works for those that want Office politics with goblins!
 

gyor

Hero
Reading the tweets about the Verdan, it sounds like they turned Antifa into a Goblinoid race that is appearing everyhwere. I'm sure the Elves of Evermeet will be thrilled mutating Gobliniods just appeared on their island. They should like Woke version of the Hill's Have Eyes Mutants. I tease. What does the Goblin Gods think of these mutate Goblins?


Fighters (rerolling hit dice on a one or two), Great Old One Warlock, and Wild Magic Sorcerer seems obvious and fitting given their back story. The only other thing that interests me is the mechanical Beholder.

They functional seem like a mix of Goblinoids and Chaos Beasts. Will the Verdan be AL legal? Will the Verdan be in BG 3?
 

Parmandur

Legend
That's a lot of adventure material! I like the art: standard 5E art is great, but I love them mixing it up, like this or Ravnica.
 

gyor

Hero
So far it looks like the worst art since bobble head halflings. Most of the book sound goofy as hell, and not in a fan way. I'm glad it didn't take up an official publishing slot, but I could find 50 things on DMGUILD more worth making FR canon then this book.

Only the race and maybe the mechanical beholder are interesting, and I haven't decided what to make of the Verdan, do they even get stat bonuses?

This looks like it could be the single worst book in FR history, but I will not make a final verdict on that until I know more.
 

Parmandur

Legend
So far it looks like the worst art since bobble head halflings. Most of the book sound goofy as hell, and not in a fan way. I'm glad it didn't take up an official publishing slot, but I could find 50 things on DMGUILD more worth making FR canon then this book.

Only the race and maybe the mechanical beholder are interesting, and I haven't decided what to make of the Verdan, do they even get stat bonuses?

This looks like it could be the single worst book in FR history, but I will not make a final verdict on that until I know more.
The art style is specific to Penny Arcade: part of the branding. It's not like the FR are not pretty fun and goofy to begin with , here.

There have been some real doozies from TSR and WotC over the years, I would be really impressed if this ended u pbeing the worst FR RPG product.
 

Kurotowa

Adventurer
The art style is specific to Penny Arcade: part of the branding. It's not like the FR are not pretty fun and goofy to begin with , here.

There have been some real doozies from TSR and WotC over the years, I would be really impressed if this ended u pbeing the worst FR RPG product.
Indeed. There's an important difference between "Not suited for my personal tastes" and "Objectively badly done" that I try to remain aware of, and I encourage others to do the same.

This is a specialized book for a specific audience and it's okay if has limited cross-over appeal. I don't bemoan the existence of the Critical Role RPG books, even though I'll probably never use one. Why should I feel differently about an Acquisitions Incorporated book just because they worked out some sort of joint publishing deal with WotC? It's not like it stole the slot of a "real" D&D book that would hypothetically have content more to my liking.

I'll probably never own the book or play in a campaign using its material. That doesn't mean I should begrudge its existence or the happiness it brings to people who are interested in what it offers. Nothing was lost and I suffered no injury.
 

gyor

Hero
Indeed. There's an important difference between "Not suited for my personal tastes" and "Objectively badly done" that I try to remain aware of, and I encourage others to do the same.

This is a specialized book for a specific audience and it's okay if has limited cross-over appeal. I don't bemoan the existence of the Critical Role RPG books, even though I'll probably never use one. Why should I feel differently about an Acquisitions Incorporated book just because they worked out some sort of joint publishing deal with WotC? It's not like it stole the slot of a "real" D&D book that would hypothetically have content more to my liking.

I'll probably never own the book or play in a campaign using its material. That doesn't mean I should begrudge its existence or the happiness it brings to people who are interested in what it offers. Nothing was lost and I suffered no injury.
I'm fine with something merely being not to my taste, but I stand by my statement that is book appears so far to be the worst official book written for FR.
 

mach1.9pants

Adventurer
Haha that you've never even seen! That's a bit presumptuous and hyperbolic, don't you think?

Personally having now looked at AI it's really not my bag, and maybe the worst FR product for me, but judging it sight unseen I won't.

And there had been some really, really bad novels in FR....
 
Haha that you've never even seen! That's a bit presumptuous and hyperbolic, don't you think?

Personally having now looked at AI it's really not my bag, and maybe the worst FR product for me, but judging it sight unseen I won't.

And there had been some really, really bad novels in FR....
i browsed through the book this weekend at B&N and can confirm that it is awful. Not just the cartoonish art but the actual content. I get it is aimed at a niche audience but man on the whole it is a pretty terrible book.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I'm fine with something merely being not to my taste, but I stand by my statement that is book appears so far to be the worst official book written for FR.
In a game line that included Jungles of Chult, it would take extraordinary evidence to make that claim probable: far more than cartoony art and a focus on a particular form of campaign.
 

gyor

Hero
In a game line that included Jungles of Chult, it would take extraordinary evidence to make that claim probable: far more than cartoony art and a focus on a particular form of campaign.
Jungles of Chult is still better then this. Heck making a Dr. Seuss book FR canon would be better then this book. It doesn't fit the setting and given this FR not fitting a setting is hard to achieve.
 

gyor

Hero
i browsed through the book this weekend at B&N and can confirm that it is awful. Not just the cartoonish art but the actual content. I get it is aimed at a niche audience but man on the whole it is a pretty terrible book.
See it's not just me. WotC should have let them kick-start, then this would just be a silly harmless book, but instead FR is now stained with this. Where is a Spellplague or Sundering to clean up this mess?

They can publish this, but FR novels they can't do? WTF?
 

Parmandur

Legend
Jungles of Chult is still better then this. Heck making a Dr. Seuss book FR canon would be better then this book. It doesn't fit the setting and given this FR not fitting a setting is hard to achieve.
Given that Acquisitions, Inc. is one of the biggest media successes in the history of the Forgotten Realms already, by definition of it fits the shownitnfits the Forgotten Realms. The published FR books have made references to the show and characters for years, even Greenwood's novels. Sure, it may not be your style, but this has been canonical in the Realms for a decade now. This doesn't really change anything.
 

Parmandur

Legend
See it's not just me. WotC should have let them kick-start, then this would just be a silly harmless book, but instead FR is now stained with this. Where is a Spellplague or Sundering to clean up this mess?

They can publish this, but FR novels they can't do? WTF?
It's all about the money: this is already selling like hotcakes on Amazon, and it isn't even out yet. They have started getting new FR novels, on the publishers dime rather than their own. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Acquisitions, Inc. novel in the future.
 
I'm mixed on this and will have to take a look at it when it comes out.

On one hand, I like the idea of a "franchise" - or a new way of running a game, be it Birthright or the old Aria RPG from the early 90s.

On the other, I don't like the art, nor do I at all connect with "geek culture" and "nerd humor," which this seems drenched in.

That said, I'm glad that WotC is branching out with variants from the core product line, so I hope that this is successful as it may increase the chances that they'll branch out in different ways going forward.
 

Azzy

Cyclone Ranger
The whole premise doesn't appleal to me at all. I'd have to have a more indepth look at it, but I doubt I'll get this one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

gyor

Hero
It's all about the money: this is already selling like hotcakes on Amazon, and it isn't even out yet. They have started getting new FR novels, on the publishers dime rather than their own. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Acquisitions, Inc. novel in the future.
So far it's only 1 Drizzt novel a year, hopefully that expands when BG 3 comes out, starting with a novelization of the game.
 

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