I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

Remathilis said:
Can someone explain to me what the Architect was babbling about? I understood that the Matrix and Zion have been rebuilt six times, and that "The One" is the catalyst, by WHY? Why rebuilt Zion?

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Architect: Hello Neo

Neo: Who are you?

Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions and although the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human, ergo some of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question maybe the most pertinent you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden deciduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexcerably here.

Neo: You haven’t answered my question.

Architect: Quite right. Interesting, that was quicker then the others.

Neo: Others? (What others? How many? Answer me)

Architect: The Matrix is older then you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next. In which case this is the sixth version.

Neo: Then there are only two possible explanations, either no one told me, or no one knows.

Architect: Precisely, as you are undoubtedly gathering the anomaly is systemic. Creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

Neo: Choice, the problem is choice.

Architect: The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus, I redesigned it, Based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However I was again frustrated my failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another, and intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: The Oracle

Architect: Please, as I was saying she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99 percent of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at an unconscious level. While this answered function it was obviously fundamentally flawed thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly. That if left unchecked might threaten the system itself, ergo those that refuse the program while the minority if unchecked would cause an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion

Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bull:):):):)

Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it. And we have become exceedingly efficient at it. The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix. Which, coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo: You won’t let it happen, you can’t. You need human beings to survive.

Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were by design based on a similar predication a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way your experience is far more specific, Vis a vie love.

Neo: Trinity

Architect: Apropo, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo: No

Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors, the door to your right leads to the source and the salvation of Zion, the door to your left leads back to the matrix to her and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know we you are going to do don’t we? Already I can see the chain reaction the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth, she is going to die and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.

Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we don’t meet again.

Architect: We won’t.
 

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There was no crazy head trip ideas presented though The only ideas presented were already hinted at in the first movie.

I gotta disagree. "Neo, you aren't the messiah, you're an aberration in the program. But we've fixed you by making you an intergral part of the program. You see, you don't rip down the system, you restart it [HENCE THE NAME OF THE MOVIE!!!]"

I thought the movie rocked on so many different levels. the Kung-Fu was awesome to be sure but also all the philosophical quandries about free will vs. determinism that go throughout. I mean, how many times did different characters reference something happing because it had to happen. Yet in the end, Neo is given a choice - or is he? Is the Oracle an all-wise Yoda character or is she in with the bad guys?

On Zion - The Oracle was the one that said 99% of the humans would accept the Matrix if given the choice, even on a unconcious level. Maybe Zion is where the system spits out people that don't want to be part of the system. Then, every once in a while - it wipes Zion out and restarts it. Why? Having those discontented ones inside brings the system down. So, let em get out and go to Zion. Zion hence functions like the garbage bin of the Matrix.

But here's where it gets good...how was Neo able to bring down those sentinels in the real world? Maybe the real world isn't real at all but rather another level of the Matrix - this one designed for malcontents who won't be good little batteries unless they can rebel. But then that would mean that the Matrix triology would be ripping off The 13th Floor....

This was easily the best sequel I have ever seen - yep, even better than Empire....

anyway, just my opinion
 



You're welcome.

I just wish I had transcripts of the Oracles's and the Marlvingian's(sp?) discussions.

A guy on Penny-Arcade posted the one above.
 



There was no crazy head trip ideas presented though The only ideas presented were already hinted at in the first movie.

Perhaps I should have phrased that differently, but I still stand behind it. I should have said that there were no NEW crazy head trip ideas only expansion on the previous ones. In the first Matrix movie Agent Smith tells Morpheus about the previous matrices. He also tells about how the first was an absolute failure. It is little effort to imagine that all the people were recreated in each matrix. Why go through all of the effort to come up with new lifestories and backgrounds. This makes it no surprise to me that there have been previous Neos.

Don't get me wrong I loved the movie. Just disappointed we didn't have any brand new crazy ideas.

I personally really hope that it doesn't turn out to be a nested matrix thing. That will be exceptionally lame. Just as bad as having Neo wake up and realize everything was a dream. Unfortunately the nested matrix idea is the only one that seems to work for me about Neo stopping the squiddies. I hope that somehow he learned to control them from Agent Smith, but I find that hard to believe. Why would a program from the matrix be able to control real world machines. Heck Smith can't even control the other agents just gives orders that don't have to be followed. We get Neo having the squiddies right on top of them and he extends his hand(communicating with the squiddies,"Please stop!!"). The squiddies pause for a tenth of a second and then rip them apart.
 



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