I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

Just as a side note... I don't remember actually seeing Neo eat the candy he is given by the Oracle in Reloaded... did I miss it? or does he get distracted from eating it by Agent Smith...

Jaldaen
 

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Heard a really interesting theory from a friend of mine.

Neo is actually a computer program, and the Matrix is a device manufactured by humans to study Artificial Intelligence.

So basically, Neo is their attempt to create actual Artificial Intelligence.

I don't think this is the case, but it's interesting none the less.

Cedric
 

Cedric said:
Neo is actually a computer program, and the Matrix is a device manufactured by humans to study Artificial Intelligence.

So basically, Neo is their attempt to create actual Artificial Intelligence.

That's interesting. But aren't the machines Artificial Intelligence or what?
 

How come the agents, which represent the matrix, appear to be trying to kill Neo in both movies? Wouldn't they want him to fulfill his destiny of relaoding the matrix?
 

That's interesting. But aren't the machines Artificial Intelligence or what?

His theory is that the Matrix is all just a construct of the humans. That Neo, and everything and everyone in the Matrix are really just computer programs. That the Architect, Oracle and other major non-human players inside the Matrix, are actually humans, outside the Matrix, trying to find the perfect AI...in Neo.

I don't agree...but it's interesting.

Cedric
 

How come the agents, which represent the matrix, appear to be trying to kill Neo in both movies? Wouldn't they want him to fulfill his destiny of relaoding the matrix?

My guess is that they are simple, but affective programs, Set to "kill everything that isn't a properly operating program or a person unconsiously part of the Matrix."

And the people who programmed the agents don't worry about them trying to kill Neo, because He's the One...they can't kill him.

Cedric
 

evilpeebor said:
How come the agents, which represent the matrix, appear to be trying to kill Neo in both movies? Wouldn't they want him to fulfill his destiny of relaoding the matrix?

One possibility is it's a test. The agents exist at a certain level of power. They were made to stop everyone but The One.

They were created to be virtually unstoppable to the average person and present enough of a challenge to The One that he would fully accept the lie that the revolution was real, but they're weak enough to convince him that their revolt could possibly succeed. This would lead him to take the chance of confronting the Archietect, where he would be shown the truth and reboot the matrix.

And it would be in line with the question of why agents don't use lasers instead of guns. We know lasers exist in the outside world. So why rely on guns? Because each One would be fried on his first day out.

It's a computer game with its difficulty set on "medium" instead of "high".

Another possibility is that it's a movie and the writers aren't bound by little things like logic. :)
 

Black Omega said:
The plaque in the Nebucanezzar reads "Mark III No. 11. Made in the USA, 2069."

That answers a question I've had for a little while: What real-world places or people are actually named in either movie? I'm trying to think of any; there are real people (i.e.; Hitler) shown in the Architect's TV Dome, but I can't think of any real names mentioned. When Neo is in "the Mountains", Link never says what mountains, just "the Mountains". Likewise, the "City" is never more than "the City" (anyone recognize the skyline from the highway scene?).

There could be a lot - I just don't recall any from either movie. I don't think it's necessarily significant, just something that bugged me :)

Edit: Obviously, "France" is implied by the Merovingian's use of French as his language of choice. I'm probably just reading too much into "the City" and "the Mountains"...
 
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jaldaen said:
Just as a side note... I don't remember actually seeing Neo eat the candy he is given by the Oracle in Reloaded... did I miss it? or does he get distracted from eating it by Agent Smith...

I don't recall Neo eating the candy, though he did eat the cookie the Oracle gave him in the first movie.
 

Black Omega said:
And Kai Lord has a good point. I hadn't really thought at the time about Neo being a jerk, but looking back it does kinda stand out not so much that he went for the kiss, but that he never said anything to Trinity, even though she was obviously upset.

Was she upset? I remember her having a reaction, but it could have been just surprise, "this program wants a kiss?" I don't see it as him being a jerk- they're in a computer system, and Persephone is a program. What's to be jealous about? He's playing along to get what he wants. In Quake, you run around and flip the levers to make the plot advance. Your car doesn't get jealous, because they're not real levers. Apparently, in the matrix, you kiss the hot italian lady. The matrix wins that comparison, hands down.
 

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