I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND


log in or register to remove this ad

The biblical references are very interesting, and IMO, very accurate. Cypher is most definitely the Judas figure, as he starts off as an ally, shares a drink with Neo (Jesus), and betrays him.

Neo is even called "My savior" and "My own personal Jesus Christ" at the beginning of The Matrix by that punk guy (his g/f had the white rabbit tatoo). At the end of the movie, he even comes back to life after dying, with the power of faith and love.
 

krunchyfrogg said:
The biblical references are very interesting, and IMO, very accurate. Cypher is most definitely the Judas figure, as he starts off as an ally, shares a drink with Neo (Jesus), and betrays him.

Neo is even called "My savior" and "My own personal Jesus Christ" at the beginning of The Matrix by that punk guy (his g/f had the white rabbit tatoo). At the end of the movie, he even comes back to life after dying, with the power of faith and love.

Oh definitely. Gnosticism was surely a big influence on the concept of the Matrix, whether the Wachowski brothers are aware of it directly or not.
 

krunchyfrogg said:
The biblical references are very interesting, and IMO, very accurate. Cypher is most definitely the Judas figure, as he starts off as an ally, shares a drink with Neo (Jesus), and betrays him.

Neo is even called "My savior" and "My own personal Jesus Christ" at the beginning of The Matrix by that punk guy (his g/f had the white rabbit tatoo). At the end of the movie, he even comes back to life after dying, with the power of faith and love.


And Neo raised the dead Trinity. Making her Lazarus?
 

And don't forget about her name. Trinity. As in: 'The Holy Trinity,' Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity, maybe??
 

Okay, I gotta butt in here. Some of these 'observations' are so bleedin' obvious that you really shouldn't be devoting the time to posting them. Of course Neo is Jesus ('Supa Kung-Fu Jesusu! Hori Churinitei Ataku!').

However, I do like the possibility of a twist where Morpheus is actually Satan. So the Architect would have to be God, against whom Morphey is rebelling, only in this reality, angels were unusually mean to Jesus. Well, no one ever said the comparison was completely parallel. And of course, this way it's more fun when both sides are bad. Maybe, just mabye, we'll see some true human decency in one of these characters before the next movie ends. The Oracle and Trinity have seemed to be the only people in the matrix to ever really show compassion or caring. Heck, even Neo, at the end of Reloaded, treated Trinity more as a problem than a lost love. "I am all powerful, so where do you get off dying on me, woman?! Get yo' bitchass back in the kitchen and make me some pie!"
 

RangerWickett said:
However, I do like the possibility of a twist where Morpheus is actually Satan. So the Architect would have to be God, against whom Morphey is rebelling, only in this reality, angels were unusually mean to Jesus. Well, no one ever said the comparison was completely parallel.

It is, just not to the orthodoxy. It's parallel to a heresy. Hmm.. odd too, that in Gnosticism Christ has a female parallel in Pistis Sophia, for which the Matrix offers up Trinity.

There's a really interesting section in one of Campbell's Masks of God books on Satan as Christ in Gnosticism, I'll have to dig it up. No one puts less stock in Campbell than me, but it's still interesting.
 


kingpaul said:

I find that impossible. I've never heard of him before tonight; ergo, I have less stock in him then you. :)

Really? Joseph Campbell? I'm almost as impressed as I was a few years ago when I met a girl who happened not to know who Ben Affleck was. I salute you sir :D
 

Wayside said:

Really? Joseph Campbell? I'm almost as impressed as I was a few years ago when I met a girl who happened not to know who Ben Affleck was. I salute you sir :D

Name rings no bells for me either, sure he's as well known as you think?
 

Remove ads

Top