I want some opinions... (gaming topic)

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Three things:

1. I can symptathize with your feeling betrayed in that he specifically agreed to something you asked of him and then it turns out that he is interested in doing something else. That part isn't that cool, especially in context with what you claim he's done 3-5 times before.

2. If your group and you want to still play the game, I don't really see the problem in his asking. Maybe he IS an entirely unreasonable person (in which it was probably not a great decision to ask him to take over, especially if he's done this 3-5 times before). However, if the group wants your original game and that's what he agreed to do, there's no harm in asking if they still want to do it (barring your own playing, which complicates things and magnifies the importance of his promise) SO LONG as if they say they want your campaign, he obliges.

3. I suspect (and this is shooting from the hip) that your own emotions are probably running pretty high in part because: a) you wish you could still be running this, b) you feel resentful of any medical issues preventing you from doing so, c) you might feel guilty for leaving the group with an unsuitable replacement, and d) just in general, having medical problems and having to deal with them involves a lot of extra time and stress.


So, is what he's done so far unreasonable? The only thing possibly is if you expect that the group would like to allow you play after those 2 hours. If so, then he's basically promised to take over your game in system and run that for you, it's poor form to run something else....sorta dm-hijacking. Other than that, all he's done SO FAR is to poll the group about interest in a game you might not play in. Now, past history may indicate that he's likely to do some other negative things in the future, but should the group say "no, we just want to play Treebore's game" and he does that with diligence, then he's totally fine, in my opinion.

Take care of yourself, and try to put the whole thing into context. Your group loves/loved your campaign...one person so much he's playing in a system he doesn't care for. You've got a good legacy even if it ends here.
 

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Wow! how many times do I have to say it for people to comprehend it? The GROUP does NOT want to play anything other than the game I started for them! The one they signed on for. They do not want to play any other game, period.

To the point where this GM has lost them, they will now wait until I can resume GMing it again. So I definitely understood my group, even though apparently a number of people on this board don't.

So you know the people you have met and interacted with in real life better than 'we' do? I am shocked. Shocked I say!

Anyways, situation is resolved, game is dissolved until I restart it when I am able to run it myself. Because I take the time to know and understand why my players are playing.

Yup - you won. Now noone gets to play. Victory!
 

Wow! how many times do I have to say it for people to comprehend it? The GROUP does NOT want to play anything other than the game I started for them! The one they signed on for. They do not want to play any other game, period.

You didn't mention what the group had thought of the replacement DM's question until post 33 in this thread. Up until then it had simply been that you thought the group didn't want to play anything else and that the replacement DM had asked if the group had interest in playing something else.

In a lot of groups this isn't that abnormal. Our group has swapped DMs several times because a time constraint popped up for the current DM. In nearly every case that meant the new DM who had volunteered to take over asked the group what we wanted to do game and system wise. I suspect this is fairly normal when a new DM steps in.

From earlier posts it sounds like the DM was asking. Did the group communicate to him they didn't want to play a new system? Or is this happening behind the scenes? Groups need to talk things like this out. Communicate.


Treebore said:
So I definitely understood my group, even though apparently a number of people on this board don't.

Yeah - I should hope this is the case. I would be a bit concerned if people on this board (well, save for the ones that are actually *in* my group) understood my group better than those of us in it.

I've followed this thread from the beginning. It sounds like you painted a picture that was weighted heavily towards your viewpoint. And was then surprised when a lot of us didn't necessarily agree with your viewpoint. I know I felt like I was missing a lot of info about what the DM had really done and whether he was asking them or mandating they play a the game with a new system.
 

Wow! how many times do I have to say it for people to comprehend it? The GROUP does NOT want to play anything other than the game I started for them! The one they signed on for. They do not want to play any other game, period.

Then it's up the the GROUP to act like adults, surely? Why is there a bunch of people playing a game they don't want to play? It's not your job to mother these people.

I admit, I honestly don't get it. Is the guy intimidating or something? Does he have blackmail material? How has he gotten a whole bunch of people to play a game they don't want to play?

Why haven't they said "hey, dude - we don't really wanna play this."?

I mean - we're just talking about a roleplaying game, right?
 

How this situation would have gone with any normal group of people:


DM GUY: Hey I can't run this anymore due to a scheduling problem, does anyone else want to take over?
Other guy: I'll do it.

(later)
Other guy: Hey guys mind if we play ___________ instead of ___________?
Group: Yeah, we mind. That game is wack, we're only here to play ______.
Other guy: Okay
(or)
Other guy: Whatever then one of you can DM.
(or)
Game is paused until GM GUY is free.

No drama, no QQ, nada.
 
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DM GUY: Hey I can't run this anymore due to a scheduling problem, does anyone else want to take over?
Other guy: I'll do it.

(later)
Other guy: Hey guys mind if we play ___________ instead of ___________?
Group: Yeah, we mind. That game is wack, we're only here to play ______.
Other guy: Okay
(or)
Other guy: Whatever then one of you can DM.
(or)
Game is paused until GM GUY is free.

No drama, no QQ, nada.

Hmm, sounds like a pretty adult resolution to me, however it goes.
 


Treebore. Talk to your friend and ask him why he is doing this. Don't go in with any preconception or with the goal of flying in his face. Just listen to what he has to say. Maybe there was miscommunication on his part, not yours, or maybe he indeed changed his mind at some point.

Talk it over. It's all cool.
 

Some of you don't seem to get it, this isn't about me. These guys signed up to play this specific RPG, not any other. They are not interested in playing any other RPG.

Well, then when he asks, they should all respond, "We'd prefer to continue playing this game, thank you," and that should pretty much end the issue right there. No need for drama.


You clearly don't get it, you may want to reread my posts. The only group decision was to play this RPG, he decided to go against that and try and get them to play something else.

We don't get it because this does not match your original statements.

To start with, you said he asked them if they wanted to play something else. There should be no issue with that. It's a simple question, and if he's wiling to go with their desires, there's no big deal.

You did not originally say anything to the effect that he actively tried to convince them to play something else, though now you seem to be leaning towards that depiction.

We weren't there. We only have your words to paint the picture for us. It is entirely possible that there's a whole lot of miscommunication or "telephone game" going on. I would caution you to not judge until you get (and can relate) a far more detailed and objective series of events.
 


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