Professor Murder
Hero
Because Wisdom is their dump stat.
I am not sure anyone said that is the only way in which it can. But ‘I believe in myself or some idea so strongly that I can perform miracles’ just does not make sense to me, and I’d prefer the rulebook to either find a better approach for not needing a god, or leave the solution up to the table instead of spouting nonsenseI don't understand how the cleric class mechanical chassis only "makes sense" as an agent of the gods.
Yeah, they've been core since at least 3e. Not .5-- 3e.Non-deity clerics are not at all new in D&D
In multiple D&D settings, worship is what grants God's the their power. How is it "spouting nonsense" to take that to it's logical conclusion (that worship grants power, and that by believing in yourself enough, you can gain divine magic).I am not sure anyone said that is the only way in which it can. But ‘I believe in myself or some idea so strongly that I can perform miracles’ just does not make sense to me, and I’d prefer the rulebook to either find a better approach for not needing a god, or leave the solution up to the table instead of spouting nonsense
Longer if you count Dark Sun and Planescape.Yeah, they've been core since at least 3e
We both know I don't.Longer if you count Dark Sun and Planescape.
In multiple D&D settings, worship is what grants God's them their power. How is it "spouting nonsense" to take that to it's logical conclusion (that worship grants power, and that by believing in yourself enough, you can gain divine magic).
Which is precisely why I would restrict it to only granting you power if you actually worship yourself (either through narcissistic delusion causing a God Complex or a desire of apotheosis, like the Blood of Vol). Self-confidence isn't enough. Religious devotion is.Exactly.
It's a bit of fun folks. Yes it's a weird extreme if you like, but it's all just a laugh anyway.