D&D 5E If you had to choose: short rest vs long rest

[FrogReaver]

No, I get that. You run into that issue playing straight warlock. Once you cast a spell, you're down to 1 spell left, and if you use a 2nd spell for offense, then you don't have an escape spell or defensive spell available.

Yes. At least Warlocks get the 1 use before having to think about conservation.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

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[Campbell]

I voted primarily short rest, but really what I would want is a game where resource recovery is something that should be actively managed. Rest a little bit get some resources back where you might have to choose between hit points or spells. I want decisions about how to recover after an encounter to have an impact on later success.

I think it is important to have longer term resources, but I would prefer if you had to do more than take a nap to recover them. The way priests in Rune Quest must seek out a holy place to recover spells is the sort of thing I am looking for here.

 

[The Green Hermit]

Long Rest Primarily

I think it would make sense for either a select few abilities to recover during a short rest or for a percentage of spell slots to recover during a short rest, but I like the fact that you have to schedule a long rest if you want to be at full capacity.

 

[S'mon]

Not really seen an issue running my own Red Hand of Doom 5e game - FR - Red Hand of Doom - it's up to the PCs to try to get rests in, and suffer the consequences when they screw up. Avoiding fights & running away often work, too! Been using standard short rest (which yes is tough in organised dungeons) + 3 day long rest so no LR in dungeons, and limited LR when 'on the clock'.

Of the options I voted mostly SR. Running Mini Six RPG where magic is 1 hour recovery and there is little general attrition I find that works very well for dungeon crawling, so all-SR also fine.

 

[THEMNGMNT]

Personal preference, but I wouldn't make any changes that require a rewrite of classes or systems. I might give the players the option of "spending" a short rest whenever they want, each rest being 5 minutes long, but only allowing two short rests for every long rest. It's a bit gamey, but it gives the players a meaningful choice and puts that choice in their hands.

 

[Xeviat]

Why not use the spell point variant?

I actually want to use spell points. I have a system in mind where I treat the monk as a half caster and design the others' spell point pools off that. My issue there is there are some spells (like shield) that are possibly too powerful for only 2 spell points once levels get higher.

 

[Xeviat]

For the barbarian, I'm really liking the PF2 Barbarian who doesn't have uses of rage to manage. Rage lasts a minute, has bonuses and a penalty to AC, and when it ends you're exhausted for a minute and you can't rage for a minute.

Now, a 5E fight won't last a minute, but back to back medium encounters could be stretched over a minute. And an AC penalty (always reckless attacking while raging?) could make barbarians think twice about always raging, but rage is always an option.

I need to sit down and do a side by side with a fighter and see where a good balance point for barbarians if rage was always assumed to be on.

 

[FrogReaver]

For the barbarian, I'm really liking the PF2 Barbarian who doesn't have uses of rage to manage. Rage lasts a minute, has bonuses and a penalty to AC, and when it ends you're exhausted for a minute and you can't rage for a minute.

Now, a 5E fight won't last a minute, but back to back medium encounters could be stretched over a minute. And an AC penalty (always reckless attacking while raging?) could make barbarians think twice about always raging, but rage is always an option.

I need to sit down and do a side by side with a fighter and see where a good balance point for barbarians if rage was always assumed to be on.

Fighters get 2nd wind + higher AC.
Barbarians get to take half damage some fights and have a little more hp.

I'd say a barbarian could always rage and the fighter would still be fairly balanced with him provided the fighter is getting enough short rests.

 

[Xeviat]

Fighters get 2nd wind + higher AC.
Barbarians get to take half damage some fights and have a little more hp.

I'd say a barbarian could always rage and the fighter would still be fairly balanced with him provided the fighter is getting enough short rests.

Fighter also gets +2 damage with one-handed weapons, or +almost 2 with greatswords, which is equal to the rage bonus in the beginning. I also think the rage damage resistance is typically countered by the use of reckless attack, though reckless attack then boosts damage.

It should be possible to balance them.