If You're "Permanently" Boycotting WotC, They're Not Going To Listen To You
Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
I'm not "simping". The 1.1 OGL was terrible and WotC should never have even thought of publishing it. And I'm not telling people that they have to buy WotC products. I just think that the way that a lot of the community is reacting to the recent announcements is both short-sighted and slightly immature.
Incenjucar
Legend
"I will not give money to people who make my life worse if I can avoid doing so" is not a position I would associate with immaturity. It has the long-term effect of reducing the power of the people who make your life worse while allowing you to spend that money elsewhere.
Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
Most of the people I've seen say "I'm never giving WotC a penny again" are not 3rd party publishers. From what I've seen on this site and others (Reddit and D&D Beyond), a lot of the people saying "I'm boycotting WotC forever" are people that already have a vendetta against WotC from some "sin" they committed a decade or two ago, or already weren't buying 5e stuff anymore. Definitely not all of the people, but from what I've seen, it's definitely a lot. And a lot of them are gloating about "how they told us so". That's immature.
And it's folly to trust a corporation. Corporations and other companies are not deserving of trust. They're not people and change whenever the leadership changes. Things changed for the worse, and they could change for the better. I don't "trust" corporations to do anything except try to make more money. Not defending their actions, but personifying corporations or having parasocial relationships with them is unhealthy. Boycott them to achieve something. The people on this site that already hated WotC because of 4e or Tasha's or whatever petty thing they did/published and are now gloating about it are acting immaturely and diverting the conversation away from what it should be about: how this could still impact 3rd party publishers and how to fix that/convince WotC to make even more changes to the planned OGL.
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
It incentivizes them in this way: If they want to avoid alienating people like this in the future, they will be more careful about this kind of thing.
But I don't think the people who are opting out of WotC are doing it as a negotiation tactic. They don't care if WotC changes or not (clearly, they're done). And nobody owes WotC the time of day - being done with the thing is something that someone can do literally at any time. People have been done with the thing for any number of reasons, usually quietly, usually personally. Sometimes, it happens in bigger ways, too.
Incenjucar
Legend
Blanket judging people is not associated with maturity, nor is making a whole bunch of additional assertions of their character and nature based on thin information. We are individuals, not some stereotypical hivemind Other.
I am a 4E fan. I was looking forward to OneD&D very, very much. While I was hoping to release some content for it as a fan, I was never going to make more than a few bucks on it and it wasn't a factor. But I do not like it when companies pull nonsense either, and I have historically responded by spending my money elsewhere. This is true for candy bars, books, video games, and housing.
You don't trust corporations, you trust or do not trust the people those corporations are composed of and are led by. Some people in charge of corporations are mostly okay. Some are much less so. WotC leadership - or whoever specifically is pushing the OGL - seems currently composed of people who are not acting in good faith, regardless of what happened two decades ago.
Per the parts that I have bolded, you seem to be feeling things about this, and while it's okay to feel, I don't feel that it's super great to project your feelings at others in such a negative and accusatory way.
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overgeeked
B/X Known World
I'm temporarily boycotting as a result of WotC's actions.
I will permanently boycott only as a result of WotC's further actions.
I will also only continue to be a customer of WotC's based on their actions.
If they want me as a customer going forward, they need to: 1) alter the OGL only in as much as necessary to make it properly ironclad and permanent, irrevocable, non-de-autorizable (or whatever other nonsense they try to do); 2) transfer ownership of the OGL itself to the law firm working on the ORC, and; 3) stop jeopardizing the livelihoods of the 3PP that have supported D&D for decades.
Release an SRD for 5.5 or don't. I don't care.
It's entirely up to them whether I leave as a customer. If that incredibly basic and simple stuff is too much for them, then cool...we part ways forever. I don't owe them my business. It's my choice who I do business with. They don't owe me behavior I approve of. It's their choice how they behave as a company.
I will permanently boycott only as a result of WotC's further actions.
I will also only continue to be a customer of WotC's based on their actions.
If they want me as a customer going forward, they need to: 1) alter the OGL only in as much as necessary to make it properly ironclad and permanent, irrevocable, non-de-autorizable (or whatever other nonsense they try to do); 2) transfer ownership of the OGL itself to the law firm working on the ORC, and; 3) stop jeopardizing the livelihoods of the 3PP that have supported D&D for decades.
Release an SRD for 5.5 or don't. I don't care.
It's entirely up to them whether I leave as a customer. If that incredibly basic and simple stuff is too much for them, then cool...we part ways forever. I don't owe them my business. It's my choice who I do business with. They don't owe me behavior I approve of. It's their choice how they behave as a company.
Jolly Ruby
Privateer
Speaking only for myself, it's less a boycott than it's a deep disappointment. Seeing so many small publishers that seem to have passion for the craft, it feels almost pointless to invest your money in a company like WotC. While I believe that there are people in their design team that really care for the hobby, the real decisions aren't made by them. I always knew that this was the case, but I didn't expect that the execs would be so souless that their business plan was to actively hurt the community that supports their product. For now on they won't have a dime from me, and it saddens me because I really like the 5e, and I have almost every book on DDB.
MonsterEnvy
Legend
I don't think that would have happened.
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