Ignoble Death by Ray of Frost!?!

[mseds99]

thanks y'all

 

[Zhure]

and I know that the creature's successful save halves the BS damage as well

In the case of Ray of Frost, there's no save.

Greg

 

[Xarlen]

PUt him up against something with a decent SR.

Being an Arcane Trickster, his caster level has to suck.

 

[Zhure]

Or against critters immune to cold damage.

 

[Gaiden]

Xarlen, not true - I made an AT with caster level up to 18 before epic levels

 

[Darklone]

To add something important... the reason why he uses ray of frost instead of his dagger is the touch attack. With ray of frost he can kill giants and dragons, with a dagger he would probably miss.

Easy way to avoid this would be Endure Elements IF you rule that the ray of frost damage has to cause damage. Endure Elements is a lvl 1 spell and make sure the party has a recurring villain whose only purpose is to sell Endure Elements potions to all other opponents...

 

[Xarlen]

Xarlen, not true - I made an AT with caster level up to 18 before epic levels

Dude, you need atleast 2d6 sneak attack to enter the cass. You would ATLEAST have to be a 3rd level rogue, ergo a caster level of 17.

 

[hammymchamham]

Until I saw this in play, I didn't really appreciate how unimportant a weapon's base damage was for a rogue -- or why weapon finesse was such an incredible feat for a rogue.

Daniel

Yes, agreed. A rogue with a weapon that does a x3 or x4 critcal is really nice though. On a crit my 10th rogue does 4d6+12 + 5d6 sneak. Its rare that I get those extra 3d6's, but its nice

 

[RyanL]

To add something important... the reason why he uses ray of frost instead of his dagger is the touch attack. With ray of frost he can kill giants and dragons, with a dagger he would probably miss.

It does seem kind of lame that you can get sneak attack damage with a touch attack. If the attack doesn't even have to penetrate armor, how are you nailing a vital organ?

-Ryan

 

[Hypersmurf]

Dude, you need atleast 2d6 sneak attack to enter the cass. You would ATLEAST have to be a 3rd level rogue, ergo a caster level of 17.

Wiz 8/Rog 1/Ass 1/AT 10

Where's the problem?

-Hyp.