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Immortals Handbook (aka The Worship Points System)

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Knight Otu said:
Hello, Upper_Krust! :)

Hi Knight Otu mate! :)

Knight Otu said:
(Yes, I'm still here, and with my unfortunate "exile" :( being over, I can post again!)

You must have felt like the imprisoned Tharizdun!?

Knight Otu said:
Maybe you have already seen the thread about Deities and Demigods in General Discussion?

Yep. ;)

I saw it this morning but had to go out - only got posting to it this afternoon.

Knight Otu said:
Regarding the Metabarons: From what little I could see it seems to be a larger scale than Perry Rhodan, but since the university browser doesn't show these sites well, I might be better served if Gez posts an overview if you don't mind?

I am sure Gez will help out with an overview or provide you with links to non-flash Metabarons sites.

Though try and download and install Flash on the university computer (if they let you) - just to see it! ;)

Knight Otu said:
Regarding the Immortal's Handbook: I'm sad to hear about the delay, but I think that the decision is ultimately a good one.

So do I!

After reading the preview of Deities & Demigods (from Derulbaskul) it definately seems as if it would benefit from my attention. ;)

Knight Otu said:
Since I've decided to wait for the print version, I'm more or less neutral about the splitting of the .pdf version.

Again, I think its the best decision it will be divided into Players section; DMs section; Magic section and Monsters section with a few other things thrown in! ;)

Knight Otu said:
I guess you won't be able to tell us the name of the publisher before D&Dg goes OGL? (I do have two guesses, though - there aren't that many publishers that I would regard as fitting for a product of this scale)

No I can't reveal the publisher because we haven't signed a contract yet. Nothing to do with D&Dg. As soon as I have D&Dg I can get to tweaking my work then send it to them so that its ready when D&Dg enters the SRD (System Reference Document).
 

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Originally posted by U_K
As soon as I have D&Dg I can get to tweaking my work then send it to them so that its ready when D&Dg enters the SRD (System Reference Document).
Well, it's out now, so hurry up and buy it, tweak away, then get your book submitted! :) I, for one, am still eagerly awaiting it (in whatever format is first available). :)
 

The Tomfoolery of Professor Doneerson

Sorry I'm late. There was trouble at the lab with the running and the screaming and the crying when the monkeys stole the glasses right of my head.

Now I'll go back and see if I can find anything to complain about.
 

Hi Andor mate! :)

Andor of the Blade said:
Well, it's out now, so hurry up and buy it, tweak away, then get your book submitted! :)

Street date is still April 12th (I don't know how Derulbaskul got his so early!?) - I should have it within a week of that, fingers crossed! ;)

Don't worry, I'll be all over that book like a rash ASAP. ;)

Andor of the Blade said:
I, for one, am still eagerly awaiting it (in whatever format is first available). :)

Appreciate the love mate! :D
 

UK, S'mon, poilbrunthank you for all of your help. I can't believe I've been scammed, but after further research, it appears to be true. I feel like such a ****ing idiot . . .:(

I'm not sure what to do now . . . I would still like to be published . . . S'mon, thank you again for showing me the light, and I have gone to the links you posted in search of the answers to my problems . . .

S'mon, UK, if my book ever gets published, which isn't looking like much of a possibility at the moment, but if it does, I'll be sure to mention you both in my "Thanks" . . .:(

That guy ****es me off, and if I ever saw him, I'd probably kill him! No one does this to me! Grrr . . . Hell hath no fury like Anubis scorned . . .:mad:
 

Anubis said:

I'm not sure what to do now . . . I would still like to be published . . . S'mon, thank you again for showing me the light, and I have gone to the links you posted in search of the answers to my problems . . .

S'mon, UK, if my book ever gets published, which isn't looking like much of a possibility at the moment, but if it does, I'll be sure to mention you both in my "Thanks" . . .:(

That guy ****es me off, and if I ever saw him, I'd probably kill him! No one does this to me! Grrr . . . Hell hath no fury like Anubis scorned . . .:mad:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. Talk to other authors in the Internet groups, find out some reputable agents (ie ones that don't try to charge you money) and send them your book - if it's good you should still have a decent chance of getting it published.
 

Argh. Yesterday, I wrote a long reply detailing all I know of Jodo and his dark sci-fi universe. Just at the time I hit the "Submit Reply" button, the nfs1 server at the university crashed. For those that don't understand what this mean, that means that all network-based applications (like a browser) crashed at the same time.

Disgusted.

Anyway.

To Anubis: :eek: !

To Godofredo:

"si es chileno es bueno"

Si c'est chilien c'est bien", is that it ? I can't translate it in English, I don't find a rhyme. If it's chileat it's great ? If it's chilor it roxxor ? Nah, these aren't good.

Overview of the universe with the metabarons:

I've said before Jodo was influenced with buddhism. To be more correct, he was influenced heavily by new age buddhism. Which is different.

His universe was created for the Incal serie. He latter made the "Before the Incal" prequel, and is actually working on a sequel, "the Second Dream". The Metabaron project, like the Technopriests project, is a side thing.

The world is a dark space-opera universe, with starships, psi powers, robots, mutants, and ETs. There are an infinite number of parrallel universe.

On the main planet, the one were John Difool (the (anti)hero of the Incal series) and the Metabaron send most of their time, 99.9% percent of the surface is occupied by automatic factories and farms. All humanity is concentrated in a pit city, each ground being poorer than the one above, and the bottom of the pit being occupied by a lake of toxic and highly corrosive waste.

The ruling caste is nominally the Aristopatrons, people who are genetically modified (but it's a secret) to have... I don't know the english term, an "auréole", the shining levitating circle above the head of saints and angels, you see ?

On pair with the Aristos is the Technoclergy. These people blend religious outlook and titles with a totally materialistic approach. They "worship" technology and don't have the slightiest mysticism, except when they were corrupted by the Necrodream and created the first Egg of Darkness to destroy the worlds. An egg of darkness works like a virus, but using a sun instead of a cell as victim. It blot out a star to replicate by thousands and gain the energy to reach other stars.

Below are the low people. Their life don't have the slightiest value, and they get killed frequently in lots of way. For the greatest pleasure of the survivor, who love nothing more than seeing people suffer and die for real on the TV.

A theme that runs throughout the Incal is dehumanization. Humans are all inhuman. The Technoclergy and robots heavily dislike all organic entities, that they call "biocrap", and finally end up creating, under the influence of the Necrodream, a virus that dissolves all organic creatures, forcing all those who want to survive to become transformed into robots.

In this world, John Difool, the hero, one day discover a strange sect of mutants, who grows a plant called "amourine". This plant grows when a mutant sacrifice himself for creating such a plant as a gift for awakening the other beings. Well, basically, he eats that thing and discover the Amarax, the power of love. From now on, he will continually, in his dreams, try to make the humanity realize it live an awful existence, and forsake cruely and heartlessness for love, friendship, happiness, yadda-yadda. Each time, he ends up (in his dream), dead, usually after the destruction of the world he tried to save. The funniest thing is that each time, he don't want to be a savior. Each time, other people (the Incal and its gardians initially) comes and force him to be a savior.

The Metabaron is a secondary character that first makes a cameo appearance, then end up helping Difool (in his dream, again). Latter, Jodorowski got convinced of creating a serie based on the Metabarons "caste".

The Technopriests is another serie set in the same universe, where a technocleric of pure soul, attracted to the technoclergy because he conceived videogames as a gate open on dreams and imagination, discover that they are in fact used as one of the innumerable way of brainwashing the masses and controlling their mind. After trying to rebel, he eventually end up leaving to another alternate universe with some followers to create a small paradise rather than heal the hell. This serie being not finished, I don't know how his attempt will end.

Psionic powers are extremely important to the world, as Jodo's ideas are fully in synch with the idea of mind over matter and spirituality over materialism. It is something that his technopriest hero understood, but Difool is to dumb to really understand it (even if he knows it unconsciously). And the metabarons... It's harder to say, but they don't seem to really care. They despise the other people, as both mentally, physically, materially and spiritually they are so much inferior, even inferior to what a human should be.

Jodo wanted to make of the Metabaron serie something like a greek tragedy. For this reason, the Metabaron is indeed full of pathos. Taboos are breached (most blatant, the oedipian kill of the father), true love are discovered, total insanity are experienced, while simultaneously the Metabaron grow in power, usually by acquiring a new "trick" (their was the first cybernetized metabaron, the first metabaron relying heavily on psionic powers, the first metabaron renouncing to all ties and emotions, etc.) that their descendant will share.

The story is a fun read, even if personally I'm a bit biased against Jodo's new-ageness, and even if these stories (incal, metabarons) are a bit repetitive.


Sorry, it's less detailed than the reply I first typed, but get lost due to the incompetence of our sysadmins. :mad:
 

Hi Anubis mate!

Anubis said:
UK, S'mon, poilbrun, thank you for all of your help.

Thats what friends are for! :)

Anubis said:
I can't believe I've been scammed, but after further research, it appears to be true. I feel like such a ****ing idiot . . . :(

That could have happened to anyone! Especially someone with a trusting nature - a good quality under other circumstances.

Try not to dwell on it!

The main thing now is to turn this negative experience into a positive one! Make sure you are vigilant to being scammed ever again...especially when theres money involved!

Anubis said:
I'm not sure what to do now . . . I would still like to be published . . .

If you are dedicated and determined enough theres nothing to say you still can't be published!

Don't let one bad experience 'knock the wind out of your sails!'

Anubis said:
S'mon, thank you again for showing me the light, and I have gone to the links you posted in search of the answers to my problems . . .

As Simon mentions you would be best chatting to other authors - obviously you're not the first to be scammed; they will be able to advise you as to reputable publishers and if its possible to take any action against GHT (though I doubt this last part).

Anubis said:
S'mon, UK, if my book ever gets published, which isn't looking like much of a possibility at the moment, but if it does, I'll be sure to mention you both in my "Thanks" . . . :(

Appreciate it mate...but for now you just look out for yourself!

Anubis said:
That guy ****es me off, and if I ever saw him, I'd probably kill him! No one does this to me! Grrr . . . Hell hath no fury like Anubis scorned . . . :mad:

I don't think murder is the answer, but I imagine I would feel the same way!
 

Hi Gez mate! :)

Gez said:
Argh. Yesterday, I wrote a long reply detailing all I know of Jodo and his dark sci-fi universe. Just at the time I hit the "Submit Reply" button, the nfs1 server at the university crashed. For those that don't understand what this mean, that means that all network-based applications (like a browser) crashed at the same time.

Disgusted.

That happens to me all the time here. I always save long posts/replies before 'submitting' them - just to be sure.

Speak of the Devil!...I just tried to post this (at about 12:30pm) and the site has frozen! Every other site I try still works; lets see how long I am blocked for..?

Gez said:
To Godofredo:

"si es chileno es bueno"

Si c'est chilien c'est bien", is that it ? I can't translate it in English, I don't find a rhyme. If it's chileat it's great ? If it's chilor it roxxor ? Nah, these aren't good.

Just realised Godofredo was remarking about Jodorowsky's involvement with the Metabarons...which I had forgotten; though I didn't realise it was the Film Director.

Gez said:
Overview of the universe with the metabarons:

I've said before Jodo was influenced with buddhism. To be more correct, he was influenced heavily by new age buddhism. Which is different.

Man after my own heart...not afraid to exploit mythology (religion) as his film content will (also) attest to.

Gez said:
The ruling caste is nominally the Aristopatrons, people who are genetically modified (but it's a secret) to have... I don't know the english term, an "auréole", the shining levitating circle above the head of saints and angels, you see ?

We call that a halo.

Gez said:
Sorry, it's less detailed than the reply I first typed, but get lost due to the incompetence of our sysadmins. :mad:

Coincidently Knight Otu remarked he has been having trouble with the computers at his university! :(

You guys should have came to Northern Ireland to study; a good friend of mine is studying Programming at University here and they update the technology at least every year (I think they have 2 GHz machines with 512 Meg Ram in at the moment; and the university server has some sort of amazing connection he downloads at 3 Meg/second from it!!!
 
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Hi Upper Krust! I have been thinkning how to treat Avatars if Deities and Demigods goes with this crap that they are the same as original Gods, only their Divine Rank is two times lower. I would personally go with Avatar`s stats being same as deity besides: Divine Rank 1/3rd of those of the Deity, and no outsider hit dice. This way Avatar OF Hermes( powerful Intermediate Deity) would be equal to Heracles( powerful Demigod).
 

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