Immortals Handbook - Chronicle (Adventures, Campaigns Discussion)

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey all! :)

Okay this thread is for discussing all things relevant to the Immortals Handbook - CHRONICLE. Including...

- Immortal Adventures
- Campaigns and Epic Advice
- Epic Organisations
- Epic Prestige Classes
- Creating Immortal Realms
- Creating your own Councils, Dynasties, Hegemonys and Pantheons
- Epic/Immortal NPCs
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So if you have questions about any of the above, or you want to discuss ideas or even post your own ideas for any of the above, this is the thread to do it.

The earliest Chronicle is likely to see the light of day is probably Spring 2007.

I am planning to have three full adventures: one for 30th-level (Hero-deities), one for 60th-level (Demi-deities) and one for 120th-level (Intermediate Deities).

I also want to have at least a dozen single-page adventure outlines, probably for 35th, 40th, 45th, 50th, 55th, 65th, 70th, 75th, 80th, 85th, 90th, 95th, 100th, 105th, 110th and 115th. This way GMs can string them together to form a sort of loose campaign or use them individually.

I already have about ten Epic Organisations in mind, including: The Illuminati (yes I know everyone does them, but it'll be good I promise), their opposite numbers the Brotherhood of Shadows, The Legion of the Damned and the Suicidium...to name but a few. ;)

I also plan to detail my Iconic Immortal Heroes & Villains in the Appendix of this book, including: Aldred (the Headless King), the alien super-psion Doomstar, the bounty hunter Ioun Eyes, the mercenary assassin Fangor and Thrin the brave, among many others.
 
yop

yo U-K
Would be happy to see adventures idea for lvl 50+!!!!!
Some Really epic prestige classes too!
good luck for finishing ascension!
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey Rockhoward mate! :)

Rockhoward56 said:
yo U-K
Would be happy to see adventures idea for lvl 50+!!!!!
Some Really epic prestige classes too!
good luck for finishing ascension!
Thanks dude, I appreciate the interest.

The following is an adventure idea I posted on the boards ages ago...

...How about an adventure where the Phaerimm conquer your world and use an epic ritual to send it into the Far Realm where Pseudonatural Devastation Caterpillars start to cocoon it. The Players are drafted into a divine strike team brought together to reclaim the planet.

However, first they must recruit the final member of the group, Sharkon, an intelligent animating sword once worshipped as a deity. A weapon which can cause the extinction of an entire race, if a paragon of said race is slain by the deadly weapon.

Sharkon resides in the Comet Citadel of the Elder God Damolh, whose frozen fortress is now policed by powerful star-metal constructs from the future, although some of the original guards, advanced Xixecal, still wander the outer sanctums.

Sharkon has been imprisoned, imbedded within the carcass of the Elder God for eons, although after the fatal blow had been struck Sharkon found he was unable to extricate himself from the now corpse of his enemy. Over the millenia Sharkons delusions manifested themselves, haunting the inner sanctum in the shapes of undead of the long forgotten races whose existence were ended by the blade.

The team then must breach the borders of the Far Realm guarded by World Flayers and penetrate into the depths of madness to reach the Twisted Tower of the Phaerimm Overmind and with its destruction cause the extinction of the entire race. However the ruler of the Phaerimm, as his last act, summons an Infinitaur (apparently the twisted tower was one of the beasts horns).

The players must then destroy the cocoon around the planet. However, they then find the planet itself has become self aware, and whats worse, insane. Before they can finally unravel the ritual of the Phaerimm, they must confront and defeat the planets id. If they are too late, the planet may have already hatched into the unspeakable mind moth which then multiplies by its proximity to sentient creatures, so you soon face a swarm of the titanic lepidoptera.

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Anyway, thats just off the top of my head, the idea probably needs some work to it.

Prologue: Planet gets stolen by the Phaerimm.
Part 1: Free Sharkon from the Comet Citadel.
Part 2: Destroy the Phaerimm Overmind in the Twisted Tower.
Part 3: "Its alive, ALIVE!"

Epilogue:

- Freeing Sharkon eventually causes the Elder God, to rejuvenate, a two-headed monstousity searching for its third head which is now a demilich. The keys to the Elder Gods ultimate destruction lies within the gems of this massive demilich, each of which is a demiplane housing a fragment of the artifact which can bring about the demise of the cosmic deity.
 
U_K!
I think I remember stumbling on that adventure in the archives when I was searching for more info on the IH. That is the coolest adventure I have ever heard. It is so epic, my brain hurts.
My question is - What level is it? You list the Infinitaur as an Anomaly, listed as the Terminator of the Time Lords :) I hope the Sword is strong enough tho kill it :)
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Ltheb Silverfrond said:
U_K!
I think I remember stumbling on that adventure in the archives when I was searching for more info on the IH. That is the coolest adventure I have ever heard. It is so epic, my brain hurts.
My question is - What level is it? You list the Infinitaur as an Anomaly, listed as the Terminator of the Time Lords :) I hope the Sword is strong enough tho kill it :)
Glad you guys all liked the idea, although I was rambling at the time and had not even considered what level it all was. So I would just suggest changing the names to fit the faces rather than worry about why there are time lord killing monsters in there. :eek:
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey Servitor mate! :)

Servitor of Wrath said:
Er...if the name means what I think it does, how those people live long enough to become epic?!
The same way high ranking members of certain world terrorist organisations (that practice suicide bombing) live to ripe old age. ;)
 

paradox42

Visitor
Okay, I've been going back and forth on this for a few days, trying to decide whether to share or not, because some of my players may read these forums without my knowledge and thus get access to information they shouldn't have until well into this adventure/campaign idea. But I'll bite the bullet and post it anyway, because I figure if they do read it, I can (a) levy penalties on anyone who metagames, and (b) change it up on them so things go in a totally new direction anyway. That said, when I describe the event around which this adventure/campaign hinges, it should be easy for any players of mine to figure out that it's my game being talked about, and they can just stop reading at that point.

This post is going to be pretty long, so please bear with me and pardon my wordiness.

Now then, the Big Event which forms the seed for this adventure is an upcoming demonic invasion of the Material Plane, which happens on my campaign world every 5000 years, and in the current campaign timeline is now set to occur in about half a year's time. On the appropriate date, a total solar eclipse passes over a specific patch of ground and triggers the opening of a massive portal to the Abyss, appropriately if unimaginatively dubbed the Abyssal Gate, through which demons pour into the Material Plane. Now, this is not a standard portal, because it does more than just create a path between two planes of existence- it actually changes the rules of planar interaction and magic in several critical ways to make the invasion much worse than it would otherwise be. The portal, once open, stays open for 24 hours and then closes again. The eclipse triggers it because of the specific wording of an ancient spell that was designed to shut the portal after it opened for the very first time, so long ago that even the campaign's most powerful gods weren't there to see it; after 24 hours the spell reasserts itself and shuts the portal down again. Without the spell, the portal would stay open permanently, and thus become a much bigger problem.

The problem is a Macro-Large one. In effect, while the portal is open, the Material Plane and Abyss sort of merge into one plane, and Summons actually become Calls instead. In other words, any demon that comes to the Material Plane during that time is truly there in body and not just in spirit, and retains its full suite of powers, even if it was just summoned by another demon or normally loses some power when off its home plane. Demons can't be Banished, because the Material Plane effectively is their home plane during the time of the portal, and any demons they summon using their ability to do that are actually called instead and thus retain their ability to summon/call others of their kind. Obviously, even one relatively clever demon making it across into the Material world swiftly becomes an exponentially growing problem. The PCs who are aware of this impending doom have been told that on previous occasions of the portal opening, literally millions of demons made it into the Material Plane; on the last portal opening "in excess of two million" came through, and even more are expected to show up this time because the world has been greatly weakened due to the cataclysmic collapse of the ancient civilization that once ruled it (believe it or not, that collapse was entirely separate from the last demonic invasion, which proved to be little more than an annoyance to them at the time).

Many solutions have been tried to stop this periodic invasion from taking place, but all have failed to work- some of the more "out there" solutions included moving the moon to prevent the eclipse from happening on the date in question, performing a massive epic ritual to effectively Dimension Lock the entire world during the time of the portal, and a cabal of powerful spellcasters using up whole suites of Wishes trying to change the wording and effects of the ancient spell that keeps the portal shut during the 5000 years it isn't open. The portal has been opening on this regular schedule, every 5000 years (except when they moved the moon- that actually made it open prematurely), for at least 120,000 years of the campaign world's history. In the modern date, the existing mortals have no idea how to perform any feats on that level of power and effect, so the PCs aware of the Abyssal Gate have no idea how to put a stop to it and save the world. They've even talked about it with one of the campaign's most powerful gods (he likes to show up in person to deal with various issues, and does so fairly often), and from him learned that he's essentially given up hope of stopping the portal from opening and is concentrating on making sure the world survives the coming apocalypse. They also learned another thing from him- the theory that the reason none of the attempts to stop the Abyssal Gate from opening worked is that whatever powers it only exists and can be stopped while the portal is open, thus making sure that whoever might otherwise be in a position to stop it has other things to worry about when the time comes.

That's the backstory, and any of my players reading the above should have figured out even from the way I capitalized Abyssal Gate that it's their game. Any of you reading this, STOP NOW! I can and will sic Neutronium Golems on all your butts if you acquire information your characters shouldn't have!
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Okay, hopefully they're gone now. If they were ever here to begin with. :)

In fact, the god's theory is correct- in a manner of speaking. What even he doesn't know is that the Abyssal Gate is not merely a portal or wormhole like other planar portals are, but is in fact the intrusion into the Material Plane by a sentient demiplane that stays quiescent during the time the "portal" is shut. The demiplane itself provides the power to open the portal and change the rules of planar interaction and conjuration, and its motive for creating this link is essentially one of self-preservation. Far back in the dim reaches of prehistory, the mind of this plane learned of a prophecy, which stated that someday in the future, creatures from this particular Material Plane world would kill it. Fearing its impending destruction, the demiplane set out to find a solution, and after millennia of increasingly worried and irrational contemplation decided that the only way to truly solve the problem was to destroy all life on the world in question- thus preventing the rising of the beings from said world who would be able to kill it. Accordingly, it created the special portals between itself and the Abyss and Material Plane, and became the link between them, as well as creating a sort of lure effect that induces demons throughout the Abyss to come to itself and invade the Material Plane once the portals are open. Of course, the irony of the situation is that the plane, by creating these portals and this link to an apocalypse, has given the inhabitants of the world the very motive to destroy it that they otherwise might never have formulated- a classic self-fulfilling prophecy. To permanently stop the portal from opening, the plane must be killed; its mind must be forever destroyed and its power dissipated or the cycle will just start up again in the future.

The intended adventure timeline is as follows: on the day of the Abyssal Gate, the party of PCs will participate in the battle to save the planet, along with several thousand of the world's most elite mortals and even several deities who will show up to help. The invasion gets turned aside in the end, but some of the gods involved notice that something strange has happened with the portal- its closing is different this time and they suspect the closing is permanent. What has happened behind the scenes (though nobody at the time really has any idea of this) is that somebody has succeeded in killing the plane, thus shutting the portal forever.

A few months or years later, when the PCs have become more powerful, they learn that some of the gods have been investigating the Abyssal Gate and determined the cause of the whole mess- i.e. the backstory I explained above. The twist is that their investigations show that the PCs themselves were the ones who shut the portal, so at that point the PCs have to time travel back to the day of the Gate and go fight it.

Now, in ideal circumstances, my intent is to have the PCs fail that first attack, probably by making the plane's mind too powerful for them at the time, and have to live on in a world where the demonic invasion was not turned aside and managed to destroy everything- spend some time gaining levels and trying to help survivors in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, that sort of thing. Eventually the PCs learn some crucial piece of information or gain some critical remaining items or such that will let them try again, and they can contact the world's last remaining chronomancer to go back one more time and set things right. This time, the distraction of fighting two versions of the PCs, combined with the additional power the PCs acquired during their time after the "End," proves to be too much for the plane, and it succumbs- the PCs fulfill the prophecy that started it on the path to ruin so long ago.

The biggest snag in the plan above is that of how to stat up the living plane- how can the PCs fight it, and what precisely do they fight? Originally I was going to use the stats of Azathoth as published in the d20 Call of Cthulhu, and thus the intent would be for the PCs to face it for the final battle some time around the high 40s or 50th level- but the Epic Bestiary combined with the rules for Sidereals has given me a lot more options. And that's a good thing as it happens, because the PC party that's been groomed for this adventure over the years is now around 28th level, with around half a year left before the Gate opens- when my original ideas called for them to be around 30th on the actual day the Abyssal Gate opens (and perhaps high 30s to 40th when they are initially sent back in time to start the first battle against the plane). In other words, they're levelling up faster than I anticipated, so I'm going to need something a lot stronger than Azathoth when the time comes.

U_K, assuming you read through the above, do you have any recommendations for what sort of Sidereal-level monster to use for the plane's mind? Obviously one key snag is that the entity may have Cosmic String and thus be impossible for the PCs to destroy, unless they acquire an artifact that is capable of bypassing that ability (which may provide the reason they need to adventure in the post-apocalyptic wasteland for a while now that I think about it).

In any case, that's my current long-term plan for a slam-bang finish to a truly Epic campaign. There are several key sticking points, particularly in what happens if the PCs TPK or manage to pull out stops I hadn't anticipated and destroy the plane prematurely, but a DM always has to be able to roll with the punches at times like that, so I'll survive. Hope you readers found it interesting and/or inspirational.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey paradox mate! :)

paradox42 said:
U_K, assuming you read through the above, do you have any recommendations for what sort of Sidereal-level monster to use for the plane's mind? Obviously one key snag is that the entity may have Cosmic String and thus be impossible for the PCs to destroy, unless they acquire an artifact that is capable of bypassing that ability (which may provide the reason they need to adventure in the post-apocalyptic wasteland for a while now that I think about it).

In any case, that's my current long-term plan for a slam-bang finish to a truly Epic campaign. There are several key sticking points, particularly in what happens if the PCs TPK or manage to pull out stops I hadn't anticipated and destroy the plane prematurely, but a DM always has to be able to roll with the punches at times like that, so I'll survive. Hope you readers found it interesting and/or inspirational.
One possibility is that they could be battling a Trithemian (Thrice-Cursed) which is an Entity of Fate and Thought, Its like a weird 3-sectioned monster (in fact its sort of like a composite monster made of three parts...think Emerald Weapon if you know what I mean by that). Its USP is the threefold effect, when it hits you - you feel the effects three times, when it uses a special attack you must save three times etc...of course you also need to kill it three times, it only gets hurt on the third attack. You get the idea.

I got the idea for it from an old Thor annual which had this totally bonkers monster illustration - email me and I'll scan a picture of it (tomorrow) and send it to you. It's so weird I can't even describe it to you. :)

That'll give you a rough idea of what a Trithemian will ultimately look like, although i am sure I will chop and change things a bit.
 
Wow that sounds like a totally irritating monster. I would guess it has 333 hd, and deals like 33d3 divine damage with attacks or something equally silly and thematic. I love it :)
I finished my epic campaign recently. Sadly party attendance inconsistancy and a general lack of skill and common sense (an all time low, too since most of my players know the rudiments of powergaming and tactics) I had to end it quite quickly and tastelessly (Pcs locate the guy who just kills the end villain and throws them back in time to before the bad events started so they could stop them, resulting in victory, and the basic death of one character due to unforseen time paradox - Either an assassin kills him, or he goes to tell his past self the assassin is comming and dies Time-cop style. Either way, he dies)
My players also seem to be generally uncreative cowards who didn't even think of researching what the villain (A Psudonatural) was vulnerable too. They sort of wandered arround, getting killed by its spawn, and eventually found the people who could kill the thing, helped them out a bit, and won via proxy. A boring end. Guess Ill have to craft some more linear adventures.
 

paradox42

Visitor
Upper_Krust said:
One possibility is that they could be battling a Trithemian (Thrice-Cursed) which is an Entity of Fate and Thought, Its like a weird 3-sectioned monster (in fact its sort of like a composite monster made of three parts...think Emerald Weapon if you know what I mean by that).
I do, though I only had the patience to fight that thing once and then I always restarted afterward from a save point I went to after I defeated it. I simply had to have the Materia it was guarding, you understand... but it took way too long to want to do it again later.

Upper_Krust said:
Its USP is the threefold effect, when it hits you - you feel the effects three times, when it uses a special attack you must save three times etc...of course you also need to kill it three times, it only gets hurt on the third attack. You get the idea.
Curious. I'm not sure what USP stands for, up there, but I get what you mean in context. The killing three times is sort of hard to wrap my head around, though- how does that work? Does it just spontaneously self-resurrect the first two times, or does it just plain not die until they cycle through its hit points three times?

Upper_Krust said:
I got the idea for it from an old Thor annual which had this totally bonkers monster illustration - email me and I'll scan a picture of it (tomorrow) and send it to you. It's so weird I can't even describe it to you. :)

That'll give you a rough idea of what a Trithemian will ultimately look like, although i am sure I will chop and change things a bit.
Email sent. Thanks for the offer, I just hope it doesn't distract you too much from your ongoing projects! :)
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hiya mate! :)

Ltheb Silverfrond said:
Wow that sounds like a totally irritating monster. I would guess it has 333 hd, and deals like 33d3 divine damage with attacks or something equally silly and thematic. I love it :)
:cool:

Ltheb Silverfrond said:
I finished my epic campaign recently. Sadly party attendance inconsistancy and a general lack of skill and common sense (an all time low, too since most of my players know the rudiments of powergaming and tactics) I had to end it quite quickly and tastelessly (Pcs locate the guy who just kills the end villain and throws them back in time to before the bad events started so they could stop them, resulting in victory, and the basic death of one character due to unforseen time paradox - Either an assassin kills him, or he goes to tell his past self the assassin is comming and dies Time-cop style. Either way, he dies)
My players also seem to be generally uncreative cowards who didn't even think of researching what the villain (A Psudonatural) was vulnerable too. They sort of wandered arround, getting killed by its spawn, and eventually found the people who could kill the thing, helped them out a bit, and won via proxy. A boring end. Guess Ill have to craft some more linear adventures.
Sorry to hear it ended with a whimper. I always got the impression that the best epic gamers were the ones who really 'wanted it', to 'be all that you can be' if you'll pardon the expression. :p

Thats why I always think its better to work your way up to epic rather than just start at epic, because it invests something of the players in the campaign. They care more about the characters.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Howdy! :)

paradox42 said:
I do, though I only had the patience to fight that thing once and then I always restarted afterward from a save point I went to after I defeated it. I simply had to have the Materia it was guarding, you understand... but it took way too long to want to do it again later.
Indeed, its very poor design to make people sit through those bloody summons videos time after time. While I may have enjoyed Bahamut Zero and Knights of the Round the first half dozen times I watched them, by the six hundredth time you do tend to get bored silly and its especially annoying when you have to link Mime and Quadra Magic then you end up watching the same bloody 60 second video 8 times per round. :)

...although as you say, once you get to taht point you just have to kill those darn Weapons! :D

paradox42 said:
Curious. I'm not sure what USP stands for, up there, but I get what you mean in context.
Unique Selling Point.

paradox42 said:
The killing three times is sort of hard to wrap my head around, though- how does that work? Does it just spontaneously self-resurrect the first two times, or does it just plain not die until they cycle through its hit points three times?
Three monster symbiotically linked into one being, interdimensionally linked (so that only one part is vulnerable at a time).

paradox42 said:
Email sent. Thanks for the offer, I just hope it doesn't distract you too much from your ongoing projects! :)
No, it only took a moment. ;)
 

WarDragon

Visitor
Something that caught my attention; what sorts of Epic, Divine, Cosmic, etc., Prestige Classes are you going to give us that haven't already been done? Not that I'm doubting you of course, just hoping for a hint of what's in store.
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Hey WarDragon dude! :)

WarDragon said:
Something that caught my attention; what sorts of Epic, Divine, Cosmic, etc., Prestige Classes are you going to give us that haven't already been done? Not that I'm doubting you of course, just hoping for a hint of what's in store.
Well the problem with Epic/Immortal Prestige Classes is that you still need to balance them, but at the same time people are expecting EPIC things from them. So its getting the right mix of wow and balance that can be a problem.

I do have thirteen Prestige Class ideas (not counting my Dimensional Organisation Prestige Classes: Legionnaire of the Damned, Illuminated One etc.) that I have been sitting on for quite a while, some of which were pretty cool...ultimately I can see probably half of those making the final list.

Off the top of my head (and you know what my memory is like) there is one that lets you become a living weapon (titled Mithril Drinker...I need to check that, its Mithril something), there is one called Lensman (name likely to change) that lets you multiply/modify magic. Its been a while since I read over them...I'll have to go hunt that notebook down. :D

I agree with you that it seems as if every darn possibility has been covered with regards Prestige Classes, but I won't let that stop me from coming up with something original, don't worry. ;)
 

Upper_Krust

Adventurer
Throne of Orcus

Hey all! :)

As you can see from the website, I am planning on setting out a 100th-level adventure, or more accurately four 100th-level adventures (since each chapter is as big as a regular adventure in terms of the number of encounters).

I still have a lot of detail to add to the first chapter, but if you have any suggestions or ideas on it, even at this early stage, this is the place to voice them.

The second chapter deals with getting to Orcus home layer of the Abyss. The third chapter deals with the city of Orcus and the fourth chapter deals with the Palace of Orcus.
 
encounter lists

Wat exactly do you mean by, "xyz converts to XYZ?" Is the former an illusion? Something that runs away? Something that gets reanimated? Bait?
 
U_K is refering to an old 2 edition adventure called Throne of Bloodstone. In 2E, about everything over level 10 scales at about the same slow rate, so challenges for levels 20 through 100 don't scale all that much. If one wanted to convert Bloodstone to 3.5, some of the monsters are not even challenges. (Like the 100 green slimes. Uhhh Great Cleave+Power Attack? 40 wights? Bah! Death Ward and... Power Attack+Great Cleave!)
His article is on converting the adventure while still making all the encounters meaningful.
U_K! The 100 green slimes could be Full Advanced Black Puddings (Possibly with the Dire Template)
Cool idea converting Bloodstone. I ran it once for a 3.pi game. (Still transitioning at the time)
Party was about level 30 (with higher than average wealth, heck, one of them at the time was the Coronel of the elves!), so I used the encounters listed, but increased the danger levels (So when they met the mage in the tower, he had 2 infernals with him, and 4 balors, and 4 Max HD Iron Golems)
 

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