immortals handbook

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Yair mate!

I hope you have been keeping well!?

Hmmm... both Fields of Blood and the Immortals Handbook actually seeing publication...

*** goes out to see if the skies are falling ***

If so, watch out for flying pigs.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Sorcica mate!

Wow, all this talk of Demon Monarchs and stuff is really wakening my appetite

All this talking about Orcus wants that, Demogorgon wants this, Orcus is killed etc is from 2nd Ed., right?

Is that the same background that inspires the people at Dicefreaks?

Because I've no idea what it is all about.

2nd Ed. made me leave D&D for many many years and I wouldn't even touch 3rd ed. before I acidentially looked in a PHB to mine it for ideas for a d20 system. The rest is history.

So I'm very pleased that the IH will not refer to 2nd ed material that I have no interest in. Very pleased.

That is the case, right?

The IH is a 2nd Ed. free zone.

There won't be anything needed besides the core books? (and maybe the ELH).

You need the Core Rulebooks...and maybe/maybe not the Epic Level Handbook (at the moment its borderline).

You don't need Deities & Demigods but most of the stuff in that book will be more or less compatible with whats in the IH.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

The IH is a 2nd Ed. free zone.



You need the Core Rulebooks...and maybe/maybe not the Epic Level Handbook (at the moment its borderline).

You don't need Deities & Demigods but most of the stuff in that book will be more or less compatible with whats in the IH.

Extremely good news!
Especially about the 2nd being a no go.

I have the ELH so no problem. Checked out Deities and Demigods at my local library and really didn't care for what I saw, so good news that it won't be needed.

And now I'll leave you to work on the IH

 

[Revenge of the Bjorn]

Hi Yair mate!
If so, watch out for flying pigs.

I think he'll be more concerned with the monkey's flying out all our...ahem....anyway....

 

[CRGreathouse]

If so, watch out for flying pigs.

You know, some of us hail from places where that happens... (Cincinnati, OH, US)

The IH is a 2nd Ed. free zone.

Just for that, you get added to my sig.

2E nearly drove me away from the game; very little good has come of it.

 

[Alzrius]

The IH is a 2nd Ed. free zone.

Aww, now I'm depressed. 2E was perhaps the best we've ever seen in fleshing out the Outer planes and the beings that live on them. A wealth of superb material was produced then, and it's a shame it won't be touched upon.

That aside, U_K, I'm sure you've probably been asked this before, so forgive my fielding the same question to you again, but how much of the D&D cosmology will be in the IH, anyway?

I ask because WotC has made all the Outer Plane name, several of their best races (slaad, illithids, githynaki and githzerai, etc), along with every proper noun from anything of theirs into closed content. That being a given, it seems like the IH won't be able to directly touch upon a significant number of the things we were discussing anyway.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Sorcica mate!

Extremely good news!
Especially about the 2nd being a no go.

I remember being turned off by a lot of 2nd Ed. ideas (notably the no stats for immortals jive and the nonsensical cosmology behind that).

I have the ELH so no problem.

Checked out Deities and Demigods at my local library and really didn't care for what I saw, so good news that it won't be needed.

It was all a bit disappointing...nice art though.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Bjorn mate!

I think he'll be more concerned with the monkey's flying out all our...ahem....anyway....

Cheeky monkey!

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi CRGreathouse matey!

You know, some of us hail from places where that happens... (Cincinnati, OH, US)

Just for that, you get added to my sig.

I'm honoured!

2E nearly drove me away from the game; very little good has come of it.

Indeed. The only stuff I really liked during the 2nd Ed. 'Dark Ages' was Carl Sargents Greyhawk supplements.

...though I know some people really liked Dark Sun, but I never owned (or played) that so I can't honestly comment on it.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Alzrius mate!

Aww, now I'm depressed.

I could never be depressed after looking at your little kitten avatar.

2E was perhaps the best we've ever seen in fleshing out the Outer planes and the beings that live on them.

It introduced some interesting ideas: Sigil; the Factions and indeed fleshed out some interesting locales. But for me they made the planes 'cuddly' (no doubt to facilitate low-level play) and utterly incongruous given their horrendous rules for deities back then.

I can see why you (or others new to 2nd Ed.) would like it though.

A wealth of superb material was produced then,

It took them about five or six boxed sets to cover the same ground as the 1st Ed. Manual of the Planes (which only had 128 pages)!

The graphics for Planescape were very pretty, though at that price they deserved to be.

In many ways I applaud Monte Cooks (and the others involved) vision, even if I don't agree with it.

and it's a shame it won't be touched upon.

I don't see as how I could have used such material anyway - its undoubtedly non-OGL.

That aside, U_K, I'm sure you've probably been asked this before, so forgive my fielding the same question to you again, but how much of the D&D cosmology will be in the IH, anyway?

Indirectly the Great wheel. But other than the most ephemeral hints (about all I could get away with), not much.

I ask because WotC has made all the Outer Plane name, several of their best races (slaad, illithids, githynaki and githzerai, etc), along with every proper noun from anything of theirs into closed content. That being a given, it seems like the IH won't be able to directly touch upon a significant number of the things we were discussing anyway.

They can't copyright the old planar names: Asgard; Olympus; Hell; Abyss; Hades (etc.); since they all derive from mythology.

Admittedly not having the Slaad name is a bit of an annoyance though.


Okay, if anyone is reading this from the v4 thread I will reply to those posts later (I have to be somewhere else very shortly).