Pathfinder 1E is a big Pathfinder surge on the way?

[Halivar]

I just had this horrible flash image of 2 Dungeons and Dragons players naked wearing skin suits and dancing to Goodbye Horses.

I think I need a psychiatrist.

Roll for SAN loss.

 

[Krypter]

People seem to forget that new players often enter the hobby via recommendations from friends, some of them online. The forums I frequent get a lot of questions along the line of "hai guyz i want to play some dnd, which edition should I get" and most responses until recently were "PF or 4E". Now the responses are "PF or wait for 5E". That will cut into sales of 4E. New players want the new hotness, they're not going to be buying deprecated old & busted product.

 

[Wormwood]

It does seem 2 different questions, how many are going to just start playing pathfinder and how many more are going to pick up the books after the big 5.00003 announcement. It seems not easy to measure from here using proxies. Maybe PaizoCON would shed some light on the situation....

Should 5e end up some Frankenstinian horror that has zero appeal for my group, we have a dozen 4e books and hundreds of adventures to keep us happily rolling up Dragonborn Warlords and spending healing surges for the foreseeable future.

Give us a call when we can do the same with Pathfinder.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Objectively, I would say that it is more likely that 4e would suffer a decline than Pathfinder experiencing a surge.

The folks that like 4e but dislike Pathfinder have their reasons - those reasons will not vanish just because 4e now has a limited shelf life.

Heck, I would recommend that folks that like 4e buy stuff now. There may be a slump immediately after the end of 4e, but if 3.5 is any indicator that sell off will be short lived.

The Auld Grump

 

[Olive]

I think a more interesting question is what will Paizo do to protect their niche when 5e comes? Will they lose customers to the new shiny? What are they going to do to fight against that?

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I had one person in my group who wanted to play something different than 4E (just for something different), so was bringing up Pathfinder...

Until the announcement for 5E, and now he wants to play that instead. So the announcement cost some sales in my group. It is inevitable that 4E products will sell less given their own announcement of 5E, though - even though some of their most recent products like Heroes of Feywild and the soon-to-be-released Elemental Chaos are pretty darn snazzy!

On a more serious note, this thread has a bit too much rancor in it. Discuss 5E without stirring up edition warring, or expect to get moderated.

Also, please report people you feel should be moderated, rather than confronting them.

You rang?

The Auld Grump

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I think a more interesting question is what will Paizo do to protect their niche when 5e comes? Will they lose customers to the new shiny? What are they going to do to fight against that?

I can say that 5e would have to be pretty danged spiffy to get me to switch.

It would have been more likely before Advanced Player's Guide, but archetypes hit a sweet spot for me.

The Auld Grump

 

[foolish_mortals]

is the Advanced Players Guide real that cool? That's the 2nd or 3rd time around here I've heard people mention it as a game changing book.

foolish_mortals

 

[JoeGKushner]

No.

I won't say everyone who plays 4e dislikes the game engine of 3e, I know I don't, but the majority of them will be looking forward to at least see what 5e has before switching systems, keeping with 4e, or just stop playing alltogether.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Should 5e end up some Frankenstinian horror that has zero appeal for my group, we have a dozen 4e books and hundreds of adventures to keep us happily rolling up Dragonborn Warlords and spending healing surges for the foreseeable future.

Give us a call when we can do the same with Pathfinder.

Ring ring.

I mean, man what?

WoTC has failed at providing anything resembling reqular printed adventure support and thanks to the OGL that Pathfinder embraces, even if Paizo stops publishing tomorrow, there will be plenty of Pathfinder adventurers unlike say, 4e where the WoTC license is so restrictive that even pro 4e fans like Necromancer Games closed down rather than support it.

Man what again.