is D&D evil? Thoughts please

[Canonfire!]

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Thanks for the responses! Yes it does irritate me that he responds with quotes instead of telling me what HE thinks. It's sad that he seems to not be able to think for himself anymore as he's a highly intelligent (which is different from wisdom...) person..

It's not that he can't think for himself. He is exploring religion, which is NOT a bad thing. Many christian faiths teach you to want to live your life the <b>way the bible tells you to</b>. He is following his faith, I respect that, you should too. If you can't come to an understanding regarding gaming, avoid the subject, it's that easy.

 

[chatdemon]

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So what? Does that actually have any bearing on whether or not it's true? None at all. I respect that they believe in it, but the mere fact that they do believe in it doesn't change a thing. It's just a book.



OK. Maybe I should have stated "Faiths & Pantheons as presented on a cigar-ash-covered bar napkin" that had just been "found". A book is a book. A story is a story. It doesn't matter what it's written in. It doesn't matter what it's about. It's only as real as you want it to be or as real as you make it. So, belief in a book doesn't make it anything more than just a book.

That's just my opinion though.

It DOES matter if the contents of that book are believed by the people who read it to be the word of God?

Are you really this stupid, or just trying to be an ? Either way, you're doing very well.

 

[chatdemon]

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Actually, I've made 11 posts in this thread, and this makes it 12. But you didn't even bother to read the rest. You just stopped right in the middle of the thread and didn't even continue, which is why I won't even bother explaining myself to you. If you simply aren't capable of actually giving someone the respect of reading all of their posts before you fly off the handle without understanding what it was they were saying, why should I waste my time with you? Answer: I shouldn't.

I've read all your posts. Im rebuking them one by one until this thread gets killed.

Your hypocrasy here is really hilarious.

You go on and on insulting christians for believing the bible, and how you cant respect a book just because its only a book, then you expect everyone to treat you with utmost respect. You are obnoxious and rude and sound like an uneducated ass.

Before you try some more 'dont take me out of context' crap, remember one thing, your words mean things, and you will be held accountable for them, choose them well.

Idiot.

 

[kreynolds]

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I've read all your posts. Im rebuking them one by one until this thread gets killed.

No. What you're doing is wasting space by ranting about my posts when you don't even have a clue as to what I'm talking about. When you first replied, you hadn't read all my posts. Even if you had, replying to an older post when the discussion had made futher developments later on, well, that's a pointless practice.

Your hypocrasy here is really hilarious.

Wow. I don't think you know what "hypocrisy" means. You are saying that what I believe in is false, or that I don't believe in what I say. How hypocritical. Color me impressed with humanity.

You go on and on insulting christians for believing the bible

I never insulted anyone for believing in anything. If you were insulted, that's your problem. I gotta tell ya though, if you were insulted, it doesn't really surprise me. You're obviously not paying attention, as you are too wrapped up in yourself.

and how you cant respect a book just because its only a book

I don't need to respect a book. I do, however, respect that you believe in it and that it's your faith. Actually, I even stated that in the part of my post that you quoted. Here it is...

I respect that they believe in it

Before you try some more 'dont take me out of context' crap, remember one thing, your words mean things

My words mean what I intend them to mean. If you take them another way, that's not my problem. I usually endeavor to clear up misunderstandings when I post, which I did above, but if you still don't get it, oh well.

and you will be held accountable for them

Of course I'll be held accountable. I hold myself accountable for what I say, which is why I further explained what I meant in the first place.

Idiot.

I should have expected such a response from a hypocrite.

 

[kreynolds]

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It DOES matter if the contents of that book are believed by the people who read it to be the word of God?

This has already been addressed. Try to keep up.

 

[chatdemon]

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This has already been addressed. Try to keep up.

Look, take your pompous attitude and shove it up your ass. You've done nothing but name call and belittle anyone who disagrees with you.

Calling the bible no more important than a game book is naive, insensitive and downright ignorant.

You've made your bed, now sleep in it. Not everyone is as enlightened and eloquent as you are, accept it.

 

[Heap Thaumaturgist]

Can we vote somewhere to have threads killed? This could have been a rather interesting discussion, but it's sort of degenerated into:

"You're an $&()@"
"No, you're an #@&*"

When one person posts a dozen times to say the same thing it's just gotten silly. I was hoping to read actual discussion, but all we get is name calling and a schoolyard wizzing contest.

--HT

 

[kreynolds]

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You've done nothing but name call and belittle anyone who disagrees with you.

The only "namecalling" I performed was saying that you are a hypocrite, which is easily proven by you claiming that what I believe in is false or that I don't believe in it, while at the same time you are claiming that respect of other's belief's is of the utmost importance.

Look, take your pompous attitude and shove it up your ass.

And you claim that I'm "namecalling"? LMAO

Calling the bible no more important than a game book is naive, insensitive and downright ignorant.

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I'll respect your opinion and leave it at that.

But, I never said that any book wasn't important. Quite the contrary actually. I firmly believe that it's a healthy practice to have something to believe in. I don't care what you believe in, so long as you believe in something. Imagine how empty life would be if you didn't believe in anything.

You've made your bed, now sleep in it.

Huh?

Not everyone is as enlightened and eloquent as you are

I hardly consider myself enlightened or eloquent. I'm only human.

accept it.

Oh, I accept that you can't formulate an actual argument without tossing insults and profanity around. If you wanna see this thread closed, your previous use of language should do that quite well.

 

[kreynolds]

Can we vote somewhere to have threads killed?

I'll toss my vote in for it. I only see this getting worse.

This could have been a rather interesting discussion, but it's sort of degenerated into:

"You're an $&()@"
"No, you're an #@&*"

Not exactly. I made a statement that should have been more clear. I have since then cleared it up. What this thread has degraded to is something more along the lines of this...

"You're an $&()@"
"<Insert a no-namecalling post from me here>"

But I still agree with you in that it would probably be best if the thread was closed.

 

[BMF]

(I am interupting this flame war to bring you the following message)

Well, first of all, I used to game with a guy who was really into DnD. I taught him to play and he gamed regularly with me and the rest of my group for several years.

Then he met Jesus one night in a Waffle House.

Jesus told him to reconsider how he was living his life. So he did, and he quite gaming. At first, he was real zelous and said gaming was "satanic" and so forth. But later, he developed a more thoughtful argument.

He claimed it was bad because it fostered escapism. It also let people "play god" by designing worlds and writing histories.

Of course, I argued with every point he made, and on several ocassions we argued for hours on end (I am a devout atheist, BTW).

Eventually, he quit hanging out with us and found new friends.

I used to debate with Christians whenever I got the chance, but I learned that it is nearly impossible to reach them. I could go on and on about the psychological factors involved, but suffice it to say that once a person starts to believe (for religious reasons) that DnD is evil, there is no reaching them. They will continue to hold that belief no matter what you tell them or show them.

However, if you feel that you MUST try to change their minds, facts are your best ally. Unfortunately, there are not many facts about God, so you probably won't get far. Furthermore, they eventually fall back on the "it's a matter of faith, not fact" argument.

So my advice is to forget about that guy. It's not worth your time trying to change his mind. There is probably a 10-20% chance that you will succeed. Maybe less than that. So, spend you time doing something more productive and entertaining, like designing NPCs who are religious zelots.

(We now return to your regularly-scheduled flame war.)