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5E Is the new setting Icewind Dale?

Russ Morrissey

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Weiley31

Adventurer
I wouldn't mind Icewind Dale if it allows me to recreate the games. Wasn't in the one the games, you had to deliver holy water to a fountain, and doing that eradicated all the undead monsters on the field? Unless I'm getting mixed up with something else.

If I'm not, I'd like to recreate that.
 

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vincegetorix

Jewel of the North
I wouldn't mind Icewind Dale if it allows me to recreate the games. Wasn't in the one the games, you had to deliver holy water to a fountain, and doing that eradicated all the undead monsters on the field? Unless I'm getting mixed up with something else.

If I'm not, I'd like to recreate that.
This actual scene doesnt ring a bell, but I know I've used the quest line of IWD 1 as a campaign with 2 groups, at it works great (its a little railroady, so not for everyone, I guess).

The environment are quite evocative. If BG 1 and 2 were great for their NPC and epicness, IWD was way better in term of local you visited. The old elven watchtower inhabited by the ghost of elves and orcs and a mad astrologist lich longing for its long lost garden, the frozen citadel of the salamaders who created some kind of museum full of frozen vivarium, the great forge of the dwarves stuck in a ghostly recreation of their fall and Kuldahar, what a cool homebase!
 

cbwjm

I can add a custom title.
I wouldn't mind Icewind Dale if it allows me to recreate the games. Wasn't in the one the games, you had to deliver holy water to a fountain, and doing that eradicated all the undead monsters on the field? Unless I'm getting mixed up with something else.

If I'm not, I'd like to recreate that.
That sounds like one of the quests in the hand of the Seldarine where you had to renew the waters, find some tree seeds, and find some animals to revitalise a shrine. I can't recall if adding the holy water destroyed all of the undead or not though.
 

I have an idea for a setting. It takes place in the cellar under a tavern. It’s an epic tale about the eternal conflict between good folk and, well, rats.

The twist is that it’s not just for 1st level characters: it’s a full 1-20 campaign.

Whaddya think? Kickstart it?
In further news, this is from the BBC website:
Americans are being warned to be wary of hungry rats who have become angry due to a lack of their usual restaurant food to feast on during the coronavirus lockdown.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said there had been "reports of unusual or aggressive rodent behaviour" due to a decrease in food available, "especially in dense commercial areas".

It advises people to take precautions, including sealing up access into homes and businesses, keeping bins tightly covered, and hiring groups of adventurers to clear out cellars.
 


Zardnaar

Legend
If it is it's a bit disingenuous claiming it's a new setting. Its not really a setting or new.

I'm sure people will jump through hoops justifying that claim. If it's not Icewind Dale or an older setting updated that's a bit more interesting.
 




Zardnaar

Legend
What’s the definition of a setting?
Feel free to play word games but FR is the setting, Icewind Dale is part of FR.

If you have to play word games to justify a position it's misleading IMHO.

If it is IWD that's fine, calling it a setting and/or new is dishonest.

If you're trying to justify those words you've already list the arguement.

It might be a good idea from a marketing PoV.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Feel free to play word games but FR is the setting, Icewind Dale is part of FR.

If you have to play word games to justify a position it's misleading IMHO.

If it is IWD that's fine, calling it a setting and/or new is dishonest.

If you're trying to justify those words you've already list the arguement.

It might be a good idea from a marketing PoV.
It was a simple question. You didn’t answer it.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
It was a simple question. You didn’t answer it.
The question doesn't matter. You're playing word games to justify it.

It's not how most people would use the term setting. It's a moot point until we know more anyway so the question is pointless.

It also feeds into the tendency online to warp the English language.

For arguements sake let's say you're right. It's still not new so it's still dishonest.

They used the word new as well. Not update, not new release.

Might not be IWD so either way right now it doesn't matter until we know more.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
The question doesn't matter. You're playing word games to justify it.
I’m not trying to justify anything. If there’s an argument, it’s in your head. I think you might be imagining a conversation which isn’t happening.

I just asked what a setting was, to you. You seem to be exploding. Calm down, dude.
 



Zardnaar

Legend
I’m not trying to justify anything. If there’s an argument, it’s in your head. I think you might be imagining a conversation which isn’t happening.

I just asked what a setting was, to you. You seem to be exploding. Calm down, dude.
Well you've created 3 threads to hype it up. So either.

1. You're being paid to do it.

And/or

2. You're doing it to drive views/ clicks etc.

Note none of the above I have any issue with it's how the games played.

I did do some marketing papers at University so I get it. It doesn't bother me that much it's marketing/PR.

If it's is IWD and it's a new setting I put it in the same category of McDonald's marketing their food as part of a balanced diet.

As a previous poster mentioned though it gets tiring and perhaps counter productive for some. Their intent is to get people talking obviously but they do the same thing every release. Fatigue sets in.

Personally I just check out, wait and see what the release is then buy it or not. Lockdowns made getting stuff hard since I have ethical/moral concerns about Amazon.

I'll go looking for Theros this week, I'll wait and see what the new release is and kick that can down the street.
 

Parmandur

Legend
From Oxford:

Noun: the place or type of surroundings where something is positioned or where an event takes place

I'll reiterate that writing "next setting" in that line means literally nothing without context (which there is none).
It is significant that they changed it for subsequent copy: but yeah, we lack the context to know what it signifies, whether they overplayed their hand or created false expectations.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Well you've created 3 threads to hype it up. So either.

1. You're being paid to do it.

And/or

2. You're doing it to drive views/ clicks etc.
That’s enough, Zardnaar. I don’t know what bee has gotten in your bonnet, or why you’re so angry, but it’s nothing to do with me. Drop it.

Personally I just check out, wait and see what the release is then buy it or not.
That sounds like an excellent idea.
 

I think any attempt to define “setting” in a way that would satisfy the way people who insist IWD can’t be a new one is going to run into contradictions. Is it a continent? Planet? Cosmos? Demiplane?

If it’s possible to travel between two locations can they be different settings? Or is the necessary means of travel a factor? Physical distance?

Or is a “setting” just a franchise with its own distinct branding?
 
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