Is this a gamebreaker?

[Evilhalfling]

I may have mentioned this before but I am playing a 2nd lvl game with a broken character.
He is a 1/2 orc barbarian, nearly out of the book. His rolled stats are a 30ish point buy the rest of the party could be built on 25 pts.
before he showed up my gnome enchanter with a x-bow was a reliable source of much of the parties damage. The rest of us are almost antipower gamed - monk, thief, low str paladin, druid w/o animal, *shrug* Its a fun game. But balancing the rest of us against the barbarian must give the DM headaches.

 

[Corsair]

Nail: if you run multiple encounters in one day, the psion will quickly come back to earth. In only one or turn encounters, they can blow all their PP with no worries.

 

[Nail]

Nail: if you run multiple encounters in one day, the psion will quickly come back to earth.

I wish that were the case.

It's not.

And yes, I do know how to structure strings of encounters. In the majority of the cases, the other PCs call for a rest break first. And if the structure of the adventure doesn't allow for that, the other PCs die first, not the psion. After all, the psion can regulate his power expenditures too.

IME (limited, admitedly), psions are very broken.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Wow, yea. Our party recently got a Psion (telekineticist) to join us and by far he takes the cake as far as power goes. He can lay the smack down time and time again, without stopping, it's kinda ugly. In the Psion's first full-out combat there came a poitn where everyone at the game table (even the DM) stopped... we were all just so surprised that the Psion was readying another blast-thingy attack afterall he had already manifested that day! Egads. I think the burden of proof ies on those who say Psions are "balanced", rather than the folk who say otherwise.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Wow, yea. Our party recently got a Psion (telekineticist) to join us and by far he takes the cake as far as power goes. He can lay the smack down time and time again, without stopping, it's kinda ugly. In the Psion's first full-out combat there came a poitn where everyone at the game table (even the DM) stopped... we were all just so surprised that the Psion was readying another blast-thingy attack afterall he had already manifested that day! Egads. I think the burden of proof ies on those who say Psions are "balanced", rather than the folk who say otherwise.

OK, here's a very simple example: If a 10th-level Psion with 20 Int (113 PP) wants to do lots of 10d6 damage blasts, he can throw out 11 of them and be left with enough PP to cast 1 additional level 2 power. A 10th-level Sorcerer with 20 Charisma can shoot off 7 3rd-level 10d6 damage spells and 4 4th-level 10d6 damage spells, leaving herself with 2 4th-level spells, all 4 of her 5th-level spells, all 7 2nd-level spells, all 8 1st-level spells, and the 6 cantrips.

 

[moritheil]

Anti-psionic feats exist to counter that. If your DM doesn't bother occasionally tossing someone in with them, then he or she deserves to have the NPCs and monsters overrun by the Psion.

Now, can someone tell me why everyone here seems to have this complete, total, and utter obsession with point-buy equivalency? If someone rolled the stats that put him above other characters in terms of power, then that's that. I realize it makes for a little fuzziness in the numbers, but is it really that big of a deal? After all, the DM, when making a villan, can always give him more stats. If I make an NPC with the elite array and decide that he needs 3 more ability points rather than just 2 from levels in order to properly round out his spellcasting ability, is that imbalancing? Then neither is someone rolling really well in char gen.

In my experience, actual stats have little to do with the in-combat effectiveness of a character - rather, the amount of time that the player has prepared for the game makes the biggest difference (yes, despite metagaming restrictions.)

Re: scratched_back, looks like you rolled really well. Don't freak out, just relax and enjoy the show. Sooner or later things should balance out of their own accord.

Wow, yea. Our party recently got a Psion (telekineticist) to join us and by far he takes the cake as far as power goes. He can lay the smack down time and time again, without stopping, it's kinda ugly. In the Psion's first full-out combat there came a poitn where everyone at the game table (even the DM) stopped... we were all just so surprised that the Psion was readying another blast-thingy attack afterall he had already manifested that day! Egads. I think the burden of proof ies on those who say Psions are "balanced", rather than the folk who say otherwise.

 

[Liquidsabre]

A 10th-level Sorcerer with 20 Charisma can shoot off 7 3rd-level 10d6 damage spells and 4 4th-level 20d6 damage spells, leaving herself with 2 4th-level spells, all 4 of her 5th-level spells, all 7 2nd-level spells, all 8 1st-level spells, and the 6 cantrips.

Where the heck do you get 4 4th-level 20d6 spells?! My gods, have you ever played an arcanist? Besides 10-level = 10 damage dice period. Lol, I don't think there are many 4th level damage spells either.

 

[Liquidsabre]

Anti-psionic feats exist to counter that. If your DM doesn't bother occasionally tossing someone in with them, then he or she deserves to have the NPCs and monsters overrun by the Psion.

Anti-psionic feats? You need anti-one PC in the group feat to make the class balanced? Wow.

 

[VirgilCaine]

I'm not arguing with you, just being objective, as was the entire point of this post. I think the only thing stopping me white-washing a lot of enemies is my poor AC, which could be rectified if allowed 'buff time'.

What is your buffed AC? You've got the armor bonus, and the Dex bonus. With stacking shield and mage armor and blink and one or two other nifty spells, you could get a pretty good barrier up.

As for your base AC, a melee type of your level that can get close in quickly (dimension door single use item) could really screw you over. They simply can't miss.

 

[Rystil Arden]

I mistyped, I meant 10d6. If you had bothered to count up my argument, you would have seen that I stopped at equivalency with the psion if you ignore the typo, which I will now fix for you. Sheesh.