Is Vow of Poverty broken?

[Rystil Arden]

If you use that definition, the potential for "Exalted Bob's Swapmoot and Lend-Lease Trade-o-rama" disgusts me, though.

"Sure, you can have that +3 sword I was going to donate to replace the one the dragon broke, Jack. But I expect payment of equal value plus a 10% finder's fee and 100% annual interest, compounded daily. Oh, and if you don't pay up, I'm taking a pound of flesh!--I can always atone for evil acts, but not for upsetting the most holy Vow!"

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

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Basically a Vow of Poverty dude is a slacker who wants to sleep on your couch, watch your TV, use your bathroom, etc. all the time saying he is beyond material needs. "Dude, I am truly free from material goods, which is why I can't carry around that potion stuff. But if you see me bleeding on the ground don't hesitate to use the one you have..." Good Grief.

Father Big Lebowski? Brother Bill & Brother Ted? Cardinal Jay and Bishop Silent Bob?

Pope Bob Marley?

 

[Aus_Snow]

Is there a difference between that or having the party Cleric heal the VoP guy with a Cure Light Wounds spell? Unless you're saying magical healing, or any other spells cast on the VoP guy, is off limits, I don't think it's too big an issue.

Yes there is (a difference).

The VoP guy might well have access to Cure Light Wounds himself. No problem there, either. Doesn't even have to use a freakin' focus - which is not explicitly allowed, right?

On the other hand, he has a big problem with owning or carrying potions that do the exact same thing. Oh, but it's fine if that pack mule over there, er I mean that slave over there, er I mean that companion over there, carries some extra just in case the VoP guy needs them, and hands them over on demand.

The issue might only come up when everyone's out of mana or otherwise indisposed, so to speak, but hey it sure is there.

 

[Crothian]

I think when I start playing my VoP character, I'm just going to treat all treasure like Kryptonite. That should simplify things...

especially if you role play it that way

 

[Conaill]

I think when I start playing my VoP character, I'm just going to treat all treasure like Kryptonite. That should simplify things...

Until your opponents figure out they can *really* hurt you with a silver-tipped Xbow bolt!

Hmm... do you "own" a xbow bolt if it's stuck in your butt, or are merely in posession of it? And if the latter, does the VoP character need to return it to it's proper owner, or can he donate it to charity instead?

 

[Bront]

carries some extra just in case the VoP guy needs them, and hands them over on demand.

Untill you added that last point, you were ok. If Fighter X wants to carry an extra potion or two for VoP person Y, that's his perogitive, and the VoP character will be grateful he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart, but he won't demand or expect it.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Untill you added that last point, you were ok. If Fighter X wants to carry an extra potion or two for VoP person Y, that's his perogitive, and the VoP character will be grateful he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart, but he won't demand or expect it.

It was tongue-in-cheek - "when needed" was probably the better choice than "on demand". My apologies.

It's a set of rules and attendant arguments that will often set me to nearly falling off my chair laughing. Please excuse my apparent lack of sobriety - and thus precision - therefore.

 

[Bront]

It was tongue-in-cheek - "when needed" was probably the better choice than "on demand". My apologies.

It's a set of rules and attendant arguments that will often set me to nearly falling off my chair laughing. Please excuse my apparent lack of sobriety - and thus accuracy - therefore.

No problem, but I was pointing out the difference. The VoP is leaving it up to the good graces of his companions and his god. It's faith.

 

[Aus_Snow]

No problem, but I was pointing out the difference. The VoP is leaving it up to the good graces of his companions and his god. It's faith.

What if they don't have a god? This was about a character now, wasn't it? . . .

 

[Bront]

What if they don't have a god? This was about a character now, wasn't it? . . .

Then his god won't be there to help him then will he?