I am the one who started this thread the reason you did not buy a book is what makes it relevant to this thread I made. It is the ONLY thing that matters on my thread. Go start your own thread if you want to talk about what you would not have bought anyway.
A WOTC product you were not going to buy before the OGL controversy has no bearing on this discussion. It is as irrelevant as whether or not you were going to buy the 1E AD&D DMG 40 years ago.
WotC didn't produce the AD&D DMG 40 years ago. They
did produce VGR a very short time ago. It's not irrelevant at all.
Yes and your boycott of Planescape to punish WOTC hurts 3p creators. It just does and there is nothing "magic" about it.
If you think this is about punishment, then you clearly have no idea.
I have limited funds. I choose to give them to people who did not try to
harm creators
like me. Because, in case you've forgotten, I
am a 3pp creator.
You may claim you are supporting 3pp creators by buying non-3pp material, but have no problem with the fact that, if WotC had been allowed to continue unchecked,
they would have been the one doing the harm
to me and to many other people on this forum.
If you did not have the motivation to punish WOTC you would have bough Planescape and this would have helped 3pp creators. Understand now?
Maybe, maybe not. Spelljammer was terrible. I would have waited to see reviews and then thought long and hard about if what was presented in the Planescape book was worth it. I had
wanted to buy Strixhaven because it seemed neat, but the book was half adventure which is a waste of space, since I hate spending pages on something that IMO should be in it's own book, so I didn't.
And even if I
had bought Planescape, I
wouldn't have bought any 3pp material made for it, which means that those creators would not have been helped because trickle-down economics does not actually work. If you
actually want to support 3pp creators, buy non-WotC-related 3pp material. I have Level Up and Humblewood and the Ancestries & Culture series and
many other 3pp products.
That's how you support 3pp people. Not by buying something from the huge corporation and hoping that maybe the little people get some of the money.
Maybe you were but it is not relevant to THIS THREAD.
Stay on topic pleas,stop bringing up hypotheticals unrelated to the actual discussion.
The thread is that we should forgive WotC and "get back onboard" with them, which presumably means giving them money.
You are trying to guilt me into doing so my trying to claim that I'm hurting non-WotC creators by not buying WotC materials and have not actually proven that's the case.
So, no.
The only hypothetical here is why I should actually give them my money.
I think well over 90% of people who play D&D 5E contribute to 3p creators. I do not think most people who play 5E buy 3p published written content, but that represents a very small part of the 3p market.
But yes most people watch videos, play games at hobby stores, hire DMs, buy dice, buy tile sets, buy character art or maps or miniatures and most of those things come from 3rd party creators.
Sources, please.
And more to the point--I'm doing (most) of those, but with non-WotC games. So why is what
I'm doing bad or harmful and what
you're doing good or helpful?
Watching videos, playing games at hobby stores, hiring DMs, buying tile sets--all of those things you mentioned can
also be done for every other game out there.
It is all that matters for this thread.
Sure and maybe they could have done that if WOTC deauthorized OGL 1.0a too, that hardly means it doesn't hurt them. It would have been bad for WOTC to harm the community and it will be equally bad for the community to harm itself that way.
Yes, it would have been bad for WotC to have hurt
me and my 3pp book, which is what they were planning on doing.
And again, you seem to think "the community" consists entirely of D&D, completely ignoring the thousands of other games out there. And since none of them are as "big" as D&D is, it's even
more important for the actual community to support them. Which is what I have done by buying a multitude of books for SWADE, Root, Monster of the Week, Fate, Cypher System, Star Trek Adventures, Spire, Troika!, GURPS, Mork Borg, and many, many more, including
literally hundreds of indie games on Itch.io.
If you really want to help creators, buy something other than the big-brand game.