Jeremy Crawford: “We are releasing new editions of the books”

[Mirrorrorrim]

I get that and I covered this in a later post. The problem is that I have nothing else to call it right now other than 5.5e.

Of course there is something to call it. It's been made clear time and time again.

Wizards refers to the evolving playtest process as the One D&D playtest (not 5.5 or 6E). This has been established.

Wizards is referencing the future books as the D&D (2024) printings of the books (not 5.5 or 6E). This also has been established.

Therefore, to me, calling it "6E" or using the decimal designations of one marketing error from 20 years ago to call the 2024 books "5.1" or "5.5", is not innocent confusion or lack of intelligence. It is a calculated choice. And the purpose of that calculated choice is absolutely clear to everyone else who just wants to discuss the design and playtest process on its own merit. Using that language does not speak to Wizards directly, nor does it further constructive dialogue. It only triggers frustration in the community. Therefore, to me, it is apparent that only purpose to use those designations in a community discussion (which is a dialogue of peers, rather than Wizards themselves), are to cause argument and confusion in that community.

Change my mind?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Since it is still Dungeons And Dragons, I will be calling it DAD

no judgment....

 

[Maxperson]

Since it is still Dungeons And Dragons, I will be calling it DAD

Er. The game still has problems, which gives you DAD issues.

 

[Maxperson]

Of course there is something to call it. It's been made clear time and time again.

Wizards refers to the evolving playtest process as the One D&D playtest (not 5.5 or 6E). This has been established.

Wizards is referencing the future books as the D&D (2024) printings of the books (not 5.5 or 6E). This also has been established.

Therefore, to me, calling it "6E" or using the decimal designations of one marketing error from 20 years ago to call the 2024 books "5.1" or "5.5", is not innocent confusion or lack of intelligence. It is a calculated choice. And the purpose of that calculated choice is absolutely clear to everyone else who just wants to discuss the design and playtest process on its own merit. Using that language does not speak to Wizards directly, nor does it further constructive dialogue. It only triggers frustration in the community. Therefore, to me, it is apparent that only purpose to use those designations in a community discussion (which is a dialogue of peers, rather than Wizards themselves), are to cause argument and confusion in that community.

Change my mind?

I don't need to change your mind. Yes, I am making the purposeful choice not to engage in their avoidance gimmick that they've designed to keep from calling it an edition change. As for confusion, I doubt anyone here or in the wild(as people here say) will be confused by my saying 5.5e.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

if they give the orc more HP and more to hit is it the same CR?

Wasn’t the statement about CR semi-recently that they aren’t changing CRs but rather changing statblocks to actually fit their CR?

 

[Mirrorrorrim]

I don't need to change your mind. Yes, I am making the purposeful choice not to engage in their avoidance gimmick that they've designed to keep from calling it an edition change. As for confusion, I doubt anyone here or in the wild(as people here say) will be confused by my saying 5.5e.

Thank you for clarifying where you stand. I think it will help both of us decide our engagement level on certain topics going forward.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Man these threads kinda suck.

I’ve had to put several people on my ignore list that I had come to like, and so many folks are just being jerks for no reason…

It’s a game, y’all.

 

[Mirrorrorrim]

I don't need to change your mind. Yes, I am making the purposeful choice not to engage in their avoidance gimmick that they've designed to keep from calling it an edition change. As for confusion, I doubt anyone here or in the wild(as people here say) will be confused by my saying 5.5e.

You do agree then, that your comment "I have nothing else to call it right now other than 5.5e" is inaccurate? You do have something else to call it, but you are choosing not to?

 

[codo]

I don't need to change your mind. Yes, I am making the purposeful choice not to engage in their avoidance gimmick that they've designed to keep from calling it an edition change. As for confusion, I doubt anyone here or in the wild(as people here say) will be confused by my saying 5.5e.

Why do you insist that that the naming convention that the used once twenty years ago the only acceptable name? Also using 5.5 is also just a "gimmick that they designed to keep from calling it an edition change" too. I don't understand why you thing 5.5 is just being honest but 5e revised is a sinister gimmick. If you think it is a new edition why don't you just call it 6e?

 

[Maxperson]

You do agree then, that your comment "I have nothing else to call it right now other than 5.5e" is inaccurate? You do have something else to call it, but you are choosing not to?

No. Can you point to an article or official statement by them that they will simply be calling it 2024? Or is it just that they are referring to it that way right now? Because if it's the latter, there's a very, very good chance that they are doing so to keep the official name secret.