D&D (2024) Jeremy Crawford discusses what are the 2024 Fitfh Edition Core Rulebooks.

[Zaukrie]

From a seller's perspective, they released a little TOO much material (at least too close together) last year. I don't like how it's bunching up at the end this year (but that was not intended, and happened by printer delays). 5 products per year is a REALLY good pace for maxing out most people's ability to keep up (with only skipping whatever they're less interested in, rather than having to make sorrowful cuts).

You have the experience, and as a buyer, I agree. That's a good pace. I'd be happy with 6 per year, one every other month. Though, to be honest, I'm not sure what those 6 should be.....if one is a long adventure path, that would take my group 2 years to finish....

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Yeah, that sounds about right: 3 or 4 more tests to get a feel for what's important and exciting to players, them they take the results to private playtesting to tinker and refine the math. I don't think theybare aiming for super early next year, Summer to Fall has been the historic release window for PHBs

You got to take into account the printer issues, releasing in the spring allow the MM & Vecna adventure in the Summer and the DMG in the Fall, with the the possible RD&D campaign book for FR in winter.

 

[Umbran]

Seems as if you hate to think for yourself.

Mod Note:
Making it personal? Insulting?

Removed from discussion.

 

[tetrasodium]

I'm not sure what your point is since they have increased the pace they've released material at in 10 years.

That statement had to do with the discussion about the pace of change & tied into the rest of the post you partially quoted. Releasing material and releasing material aimed at dm needs are not mutually inclusive, look at the recent spell jammer books that forgot to include basic rules needed for spell jammer but had plenty of player options as an example.

We are talking about a video where there was literally a comment about how the primary focus was on player needs and a playtest that has been very much ignoring gm needs in favor of showing off player options. Player options need to be fleshed out yes, but so too do rule structures the gm needs to rely on. The rules glossary updates have been incredibly sparse by comparison and have been largely continuing the since 2014 focus on filling... Player wants for more PC options rather than doing much of anything for the DM's needs. Heck, this is a playtest where they felt the need to test the waters with a yoyo/wackamole healing cantrip before they were ready to do something about page197.

 

[Remathilis]

We are talking about a video where there was literally a comment about how the primary focus was on player needs and a playtest that has been very much ignoring gm needs in favor of showing off player options. Player options need to be fleshed out yes, but so too do rule structures the gm needs to rely on. The rules glossary updates have been incredibly sparse by comparison and have been largely continuing the since 2014 focus on filling... Player wants for more PC options rather than doing much of anything for the DM's needs. Heck, this is a playtest where they felt the need to test the waters with a yoyo/wackamole healing cantrip before they were ready to do something about page197.

They literally released a video on the DMG a month ago. Let me link it Incase you missed it.


The PHB has been the focus of the playtest because it's first and it's the one with the most changes. The DMG will get its updates, but the bulk of the work right now is on the player side. That is not evidence of conspiracy, only current areas of focus.

 

[Parmandur]

You have the experience, and as a buyer, I agree. That's a good pace. I'd be happy with 6 per year, one every other month. Though, to be honest, I'm not sure what those 6 should be.....if one is a long adventure path, that would take my group 2 years to finish....

For me, 4 is the sweet spot, one book per Quarter: always something new on hand, always something coming up, but not overwhelming.

 

[Zaukrie]

For me, 4 is the sweet spot, one book per Quarter: always something beware, always something coming up, but not overwhelming.

Ya, after I posted that, I think it's between 4 and 6 from WotC, and a similar number from my favorite other publishers.....but you know, the more I look at my massive collection of PDFs, the more I realize I might not need so much.....I don't know. I kind of like reading the stuff, even if I don't play it.

 

[Parmandur]

You got to take into account the printer issues, releasing in the spring allow the MM & Vecna adventure in the Summer and the DMG in the Fall, with the the possible RD&D campaign book for FR in winter.

OK, so detailed speculation breakdown, let's go.

We might see a Setting product, either Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms, but nothing is super determinate for that right now.

We know that we are getting a big flashy Campaign starring Vecna, most likely in late September at the close of Q3. Most likely made with the idea that people can use either set of Core books.

We know we are getting three core books, staggered over the year instead of released as a batch.

Since 1977, the PHBs have dropped between April and August, with D&D'14 dropping day and date with Hoard of the Dragon Queen. So a Q2 or Q3 release is likely based on historical precedent. Releasing the PHB before Vecna is fine, since there is a decade worth of potential tie-in products.

We may see the MM drop in Q1 or Q2 before the PHB, or in Q3 or Q4 agyerthe PHB. History shows that can go either way, and just using the new Monsters with old options would be fine, so there is no necessity to the release order.

I suspect the DMG will be November or December, as a Christmas release, but we may also see another Setting product in that area (Greyhawk slipcase, Forgotten Realms box set...?).

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

OK, so detailed speculation breakdown, let's go.

We might see a Setting product, either Greyhawk

#GREYHAWKCONFRIMED!!!!!

or Forgotten Realms, but nothing is super determinate for that right now.

 

[Parmandur]

#GREYHAWKCONFRIMED!!!!!




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I am fairly certain that the '24 DMG is going to give a back-to-basics version of Greyhawk, with a poster map, based on what Perkins is laying down. Winninger teased that we would see a "return" to a Setting that has been seen in 5E already in 2024, but one, Winninger is gone, two, he didn't promise it would happen for sure theybwere thinking about it, and three, it could be Greyhawk, FR, or Eberron (realistically).

Still crossing my fingers for Greyhawk.