Rystil Arden
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Yeah, I noticed, but it doesn't bother me at all. It bothers me much more when I do it wrongjgbrowning said:rofl! I tried for about a post. Ok, maybe 1/2 a post.
joe b.

Yeah, I noticed, but it doesn't bother me at all. It bothers me much more when I do it wrongjgbrowning said:rofl! I tried for about a post. Ok, maybe 1/2 a post.
joe b.
Rystil Arden said:Because my view of my view isn't quite the same as your view of my view, here it is: Heat Metal cannot target wood. If some weirdo uses magic to turn a valid target into wood after it has already been targeted, then the spell is already in effect but doesn't do anything anymore, at least unless the wood is returned to metal.
Well, cancellation, as you suggest, is also not stated in the type change. By this logic, the spell still works at full power. Nothing is stated, so why not go with the less extreme option?
Hypersmurf said:I fear I probably won't have any chance to contribute further to this thread for at least 18 hours, but have fun in my absence
-Hyp.
Magical diseases recur on someone who is raised by Raise Dead, but it never explicitly states that they work on dead people either. Similarly, spells do work on people who are turned to stone. Otherwise, it would make Flesh to Stone followed by Stone to Flesh a ridiculous Dispel Magic.jgbrowning said:Because this leads to saying that spells should still affect people turned to stone, dead people, disintigrated items, etc... You're basically saying that unless a dispel magic has occured every spell functions until the end of its duration regardless of the state of the object/person upon which it was cast.
To me cancellation doesn't have to be mentioned as the magic cannot effect what it is supposed to be effecting so it cannot exist— just like all magic cast on a living PC ends when a PC bites it (unless explictly stated otherwise). Unlike antimagic, there are no extenuating circumstances as to why the magical effect should be surpressed as opposed to cancelled when the magical effect is subjected to conditions under which it cannot exist.
joe b.
jgbrowning said:Because this leads to saying that spells should still affect people turned to stone, dead people, disintigrated items, etc... You're basically saying that unless a dispel magic has occured every spell functions until the end of its duration regardless of the state of the object/person upon which it was cast.
Bah, the jgbrowning, Rystil Arden, and Hyper Smurf talk amongst themselves thread cannot persist without you guys, so I guess I shall throw in the towel for the night as well. It was a lot of fun chatting with you guys! (and if I thought PbP could be this fast and fun, I would actually play it)jgbrowning said:No worries. I just got the "when are you coming to bed, lunkhead?" look from the wife so I'm going to have to head off soon as well.
joe b.
Rystil Arden said:Magical diseases recur on someone who is raised by Raise Dead, but it never explicitly states that they work on dead people either. Similarly, spells do work on people who are turned to stone. Otherwise, it would make Flesh to Stone followed by Stone to Flesh a ridiculous Dispel Magic.
Imagine this scenario: Boris the Fighter and Albert the Wizard are attacked by a lich, and the lich casts some terrible spell on Boris (let's say Feeblemind, but if you think Feeblemind is an exception, it can be any terrible spell you like). Albert tries to dispel the spell three times, but it is no use. The lich is too powerful for this to ever work. "Not to worry!" says Albert. He casts Stone to Flesh and then Flesh to Stone and all of Boris's problems suddenly vanish. "Hey," says Albert, "That's better than a Greater Dispelling!"
Hypersmurf said:I'd agree with that.
If you petrify someone who's under the effect of Enlarge Person, I'd expect the enormous statue to shrink back to normal size some minutes later.
If someone is willing to let you cast Gaseous form on them, they turn to mist for 2 min/level, even if they change their minds. You can dismiss the spell, but they can't... even by becoming unwilling creatures.
If I cast Lesser Geas on you (a living creature with less than 7HD) and then kill you, your corpse still radiates an aura of Enchantment [Compulsion], even though you're no longer a living creature. If you were Raised three days later, you'd still be under the compulsion... and you'd have a -6 to all ability scores.
-Hyp.