JLU season finale: "Epilogue"

[GrayLinnorm]

Shouldn't that be Robin III since Jason Todd was Robin II?

If you count the Earth-2 Dick Grayson, he would be Robin IV.

 

[DonTadow]

So was the chick robin four or five.

I disappear for a year and I didn't find out there was a chick robin until a couple months ago.

 

[WizarDru]

Amazing episode. I let out a cheer when the Phantasm showed up. Wonderful stuff.
Yes, this episode required a lot of knowledge to enjoy, but I enjoy it I did. Wow. What a great wrap-up.

I think it's safe to say that B:TAS (and the movies and subshows like Gotham Knights), S:TAS, Static Shock and Batman Beyond are all part of the same continuity. The last two seasons of JLU have made it pretty clear that the writers consider them to be part of the same continuity. TT's writers have already gone on record as saying they don't know if they'll try to tie the show to the DCAU, though they've considered it off and on. With Robin, I think it's more an issue of them not concerning themselves with DCAU canon, and have been moderately inconsistent about it...as they didn't want to saddle the show with that material (for good or ill). Note how none, I mean NONE of the TT ever use anything but their superhero names. Ironic, then, that they don't use Slade's supervillian name, but that's another story. All of the evidence about TT's Robin being Dick Grayson is pretty circumstantial: the 'Larry' episode, besides being high-farce, only had background in-joke references to Dick Grayson. The Nightwing persona was 20 years in the future, at least, and was an alternate future (and one where he'd taken over Slade's HQ!).

Mostly, I'd list it as the TT animators having fun with injokes...note how TT's Aqualad never mentions TT's Aquaman, for example. Most of the TT characters are amalagamations of various incarnations of their character. Robin is clearly a mix of Dick Grayson and Tim Drake....TT Robin uses the quarterstaff every chance he gets, and very effectively. Aqualad's third appearance clearly gave him the powers he gains as Tempest, which he retains when he joins Titans East.


For next season, you know what I think would be cool? One word: KOBRA.

 

[reveal]

I think it's safe to say that B:TAS (and the movies and subshows like Gotham Knights), S:TAS, Static Shock and Batman Beyond are all part of the same continuity.

My son was watching B:TAS the other day and they had Ra's al Ghul on there. Batman pronounced it "Raash ahl ghoul." I thought that was odd since I always heard it as "Rahz ahl ghoul" as it was in the movie (Batman Begins). So I looked it up.

Turns out, "Rahz al ghoul" was how the creator of the villain pronounced it. "Raash al ghoul" became the "official" way of saying it in the DC universe only because of B:TAS. "Rahz al ghoul" is used in the movie because the writers wanted to go back to Batmans roots.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

And I’m saying I liked it more cause they did.

Fair enough.

I rather fancy Reese's Peanut Butter cups, myself, most of the time. Just wan't expecting them when I sat down that evening.

I always assumed it was tim drake too. More so because Tim Drake seems to be hte most independent Robin ever, which would fit in with the Teen Titans thing. I could see Tim being a leader, couldn't see Dick.

Guh, WAH?!

Dick Grayson started off completely in the shadow of the Bat. But once some of the writers clued into the idea of character development, he became pretty damned impressive and distinct from ol' Batsy. More so even than Tim, who is still struggling with the fact the he doesn't really want to be "Batman" per se. Or at least he was when I last read a comic with him. (Hush, I think)

Actually, I think he's on a similar character path to Dick's. Slowly distancing and differentiating himself from Batman. I just think he's going to take a more cerebral path than Dick did, which is cool. It's not like he can compete in either bad-assery or number of romantic liasons. Dick is like the Wilt Chamberlain of the DC Universe.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Dick is like the Wilt Chamberlain of the DC Universe.

Dick’s also about the right age for such things…

 

[Klaus]

Shouldn't that be Robin III since Jason Todd was Robin II?

I was speaking in terms of Animated DCU. There was no Jason Todd in the cartoons, the leap was from Dick Grayson to Tim Drake.

The funny thing is, the animated Tim Drake is (in everything but name) based on Jason Todd. Or rather, what Jason Todd could have been with good writers.

Regarding the TT, next season we'll get Kid Flash! Yay! But no Wonder Girl...

Would it be too much to have an episode with Robin, Aqualad, Speedy, Kid Flash and Wonder Girl?

 

[Wolv0rine]

I was speaking in terms of Animated DCU. There was no Jason Todd in the cartoons, the leap was from Dick Grayson to Tim Drake.

The funny thing is, the animated Tim Drake is (in everything but name) based on Jason Todd. Or rather, what Jason Todd could have been with good writers.

Regarding the TT, next season we'll get Kid Flash! Yay! But no Wonder Girl...

Would it be too much to have an episode with Robin, Aqualad, Speedy, Kid Flash and Wonder Girl?

In that TT cartoon? Gods no... please no. But then again, I so wish that instead of giving us some kind of speed-fed anime with a bad TT skin applied that they'd given us Wolfman & Perez's New Teen Titains in an animated format. I'd have been glued to that.

As far as Dick's leadership qualities... heck yeah man, pick up any of the old New Teen Titans run. Dick Grayson is a natural leader, one of the best.

 

[Endur]

The Teen Titans cartoon is based on the 1980's comic series. Dick Grayson is Robin/Nightwing. That's when Robin, Kory, Beastboy, Cyborg, and Raven were members. That's also when the Titans fought Trigon and the Terminator.

Its before there were any other Robins besides Dick Grayson.

 

[Wolv0rine]

The Teen Titans cartoon is based on the 1980's comic series. Dick Grayson is Robin/Nightwing. That's when Robin, Kory, Beastboy, Cyborg, and Raven were members. That's also when the Titans fought Trigon and the Terminator.

Its before there were any other Robins besides Dick Grayson.

That just makes it worse though. That high-octane anime wackiness, combined with the insultingly bad characterization.. it's have been better if they'd not pretended to use the NTT cast.