D&D General JMISBEST's questions. Most of them about campaign ideas that either he or A GM he knows has and wants to know what people think

[JMISBEST]

Is it possible to make this thread the 1 were from now on I'll post all new threads and they will always start with the words New Thread. I know people have previously assigned other threads to be were I post all new threads but I always forget which 1 it is. Please. It will make it very easy for me. Is this okay?,

 

[Reef]

Your right they did have to inscribe Spells in their Spellbooks but in every 1e Dnd Campaign I've ever either GM'd or played in the magic user, and eventually Magic User Henchmen employed by The Fighters, have always saved time and Gold by simply taking the spellbooks of defeated enemy Magic Users

The rolls show that that's how her parents have 4 4th level and 1 5th level spells inscribed that they couldn't cast that weren't inscribed by her parents, meaning they were inscribed in 3 of the 5 Spellbooks that her parents took as loot from defeated enemy Magic Users

That’s sort of my point. I don’t see this as any different than stealing these books from defeated spell casters. It’s just less steps. So, it makes scribing these spells easier as they level, but I don’t see it changing the power curve any. And, again, the DM could easily balance any effort they saved by having enemies trying to steal the books before the character is strong enough to use them (and defend themselves).

Definitely a situation that could provide some interesting stories, but I don’t see it as being problematic.

 

[JMISBEST]

That’s sort of my point. I don’t see this as any different than stealing these books from defeated spell casters. It’s just less steps. So, it makes scribing these spells easier as they level, but I don’t see it changing the power curve any. And, again, the DM could easily balance any effort they saved by having enemies trying to steal the books before the character is strong enough to use them (and defend themselves).

Definitely a situation that could provide some interesting stories, but I don’t see it as being problematic.

Whenever that happened regardless of if I was The GM or A player the in-game legal ruling on such things was as follows

If the Pc Magic Users alignment was either some type of Good or some type of Lawful, for example Neutral Good, that wasn't also some form of evil or chaotic, for example Chaotic Lawful, and the defeated magic users alignment was either some form of evil or chaotic, for example Chaotic Lawful it could be okay

By that the law means that depending on the situation the looted Spellbooks would be the spoils of the fight, the spoils of the fight is the adventuring version of the spoils of war which in a lot of situations allows adventurers, including Npc adventuring parties, to legally loot the bodies of enemies they've killed, not stealing

To anyone that's wondering regardless of if I was The GM or A player The GM always told us how likely it was that the type of looting of dead enemies we were doing was legal and The GM justified this by saying that prior to every adventure we would make sure thar most of the types of looting of dead enemies that we believed were likely to partake in were legal

 

[JMISBEST]

I haven’t looked at 1e in a long, long time. But I’m assuming a 1st level wizard couldn’t cast all those spells, even if they had them in a spell book. So I don’t see it being a problem at all. At best, they would just have easier access as they level, instead of having to search and/or buy the spells to record in their book.

In fact, if the DM wanted, it could be the opposite of empowering. This puny little 1st level wizard now has a trove (that they can’t use) that a whole lot of higher level wizards would likely kill for. Plot hooks galore.

Also (again, my 1e knowledge is rusty), didn’t wizards have to scribe spells into their own book before gaining access to them? So, just having them available for scribing, doesn’t necessarily give them automatic access to the,. They still need to make the Learn Spell roll, right?

Again, apologies if my rule knowledge is wrong. I have too many editions in my head. But I don’t see it being a problem, and in fact could generate an awesome amount of stories for the group.

What are your thoughts on the likelihood that Chaotic Magic Users of 13th level or higher that have access to Spiritwrack(A 6th level Spell) and Cacodeamon(A 7th level Spell) would pay A High level(in order to guarantee success we're talking 10th level+) Thief to nick those 5 Spellscrolls and 3 tiny Books, that each tell how to use both Cacodeamon and Spiritwrack, but they don't actually contain the spells Cacodeamon and Spiritwrack, on 1 of the following 8 unholy foes. 3 Type I Deamons, 2 Vrocks, 1 Type II Deamon, 1 Type V Deamon and 1 Hydrodeamon

 

[Reef]

To be honest, I’m having a really hard time parsing your posts.

If I’m understanding, you want to know what are the odds someone hires a thief to steal the books? If so, I really don’t understand the question. It’s as likely to happen as the DM wants it to. Is there a high level mage who knows a high level thief? Sure, it could happen. If there’s not, it won’t. It’s not like I can check some universal random theft table and give you odds…

 

[JMISBEST]

Follow up thread to the last 1

I decided to generate what other stuff the character that inherited that library inherited but he only inherited the library, the stuff he started with and 1 other thing

That's because both of his parents sold everything else they owned and used the money to buy 1 very large Barony that depending on the rulers gender, a male in this case, cones with the title of very senior Baron or Baroness, very Senior Baron in this case

So he inherited the following

11 Spellbooks and 0 Spellscrolls that between them hold 14 1st level, 11 2nd level, 7 3rd level, 4 4th level and 1 5th level Spell

1 collection of 5 Spellscrolls and 3 tiny Books, and each of them tells how to use both Cacodeamon and Spiritwrack, but they don't actually contain the spells Cacodeamon and Spiritwrack, on 1 of the following 8 unholy foes. 3 Type I Deamons, 2 Vrocks, 1 Type II Deamon, 1 Type V Deamon and 1 Hydrodeamon

1 very large Barony that depending on the rulers gender, a male in this case, cones with the title of very senior Baron or Baroness, very Senior Baron in this case

And

Whatever he can buy with 6+1+4 or 11x10 or 110 Gold Coins

 

[CreamCloud0]

Is it possible to make this thread the 1 were from now on I'll post all new threads and they will always start with the words New Thread. I know people have previously assigned other threads to be were I post all new threads but I always forget which 1 it is. Please. It will make it very easy for me. Is this okay?,

you could just rename the thread couldn't you? 'JMISBEST's campaign scenario query thread' or something, that'd probably help keep track that this is The One You Use Now

 

[JMISBEST]

To be honest, I’m having a really hard time parsing your posts.

If I’m understanding, you want to know what are the odds someone hires a thief to steal the books? If so, I really don’t understand the question. It’s as likely to happen as the DM wants it to. Is there a high level mage who knows a high level thief? Sure, it could happen. If there’s not, it won’t. It’s not like I can check some universal random theft table and give you odds…

If the very high level, to cast Cacodeamon which is A 7th level Spell he or she would have to be 13th level or higher, Magic User and the high level Thief, if I was running it The Thief would definitely be at least 10th level and he or she would likely be at least 13th level, where former adventuring colleagues that kept in touch yes otherwise?, I don't know

 

[JMISBEST]

you could just rename the thread couldn't you? 'JMISBEST's campaign scenario query thread' or something, that'd probably help keep track that this is The One You Use Now

I'd forgotten that you can rename the threads. Thanks

 

[Reef]

If the very high level, to cast Cacodeamon which is A 7th level Spell he or she would have to be 13th level or higher, Magic User and the high level Thief, if I was running it The Thief would definitely be at least 10th level and he or she would likely be at least 13th level, where former adventuring colleagues that kept in touch yes otherwise?, I don't know

Sure. Why not? All that is plausible.