Not IMO. I don't see a need to gatekeep the definition of a "heist" as you do. Heck, even the "Ocean" movies trailed away from making the heist simply about personal gain. There is no problem with running the type of heist you want (and many of the Adventures in Golden Vault can be run that way), but it also perfectly legitimate to run a different type of heist.
Not all gold dragon's are lawful good: end of story. It is not that hard.
Yeah, its an extremely common trope for the people carrying out a heist to be heroic. E.g. Tower Heist, Ant Man. And of course, the entire Mission Impossible TV series was a heist show.
I'm not sure that is an appropriate use of "gatekeep" but otherwise I agree. A "heist" is an activity and is not defined by its motivation.
That could be - I think it is only the second time I've ever used it!
What you quoted, was in context of a lawful good gold dragon. If the dragon is not lawful good, then it's a different story.
It's also not that hard to realize people interpret alignments differently, often in the context of the creature, time, culture or genre at play. Lawful Good in a heist is very different than Lawful Good in an Arthurian romance.
If I say X, then I know what I meant. If someone quotes me, and says actually it's Y, it's not hard to see these subjective interpretations being articulated as arguments.
People have tried -- and failed -- to dump alignment in D&D for years.
Oooh! I know this one! Like it’s only meta humor if it’s cynical and mean-spirited, not if it’s wholesome.
I bet lots of people have succeeded. Only WotC seems to be having a hard time with it.
Because lots of people don’t want it dumped.
Sorry. In an earlier comment you said by RAW gold dragons couldn't be anything but lawful good. I pointed out how that wasn't true in the MM and you never responded. So I mistakenly thought you were still talking about I misunderstanding of RAW. I missed the comments in between, my apologies.
I don't think anyone would refuse to buy 1D&D because it scrapped alignment, if it did so. The majority of new players seem to have a strong dislike for alignment in the first place, and old hands that want it would just house rule it back in.
You also don't need to be unlawful to support Goldfinger, er the Golden Vault.
In D&D lawful can mean other things than "follows the laws." Also end of story. Let's see if this story can end as often as Brady's football career.
Luckily for us, I don't actually enjoy arguing. Arguing is only an ends to a means, where the means is some sort of progress. So end of story.In D&D lawful can mean other things than "follows the laws." Also end of story. Let's see if this story can end as often as Brady's football career.
It's not hard. I haven't used alignment in decades. Removing it from the game makes the story much more sensible, in my experience. YVMV.
In my game, I have alignment but it's just a very vague frame of reference and it barely has any weight.
