Klingon forehead discrepancy to finally be addressed!

[Hand of Evil]

Do we really have any evidence that the question is being "pushed" by anyone at all? havign an interesting answer might be a selling point to a long-time fan, so they might use and advertise it. But that doesn't mean anyone's pushing the question.

Good question. I guess there are ST club boards that may have more on it, polls or commits on the subject.

 

[Viking Bastard]

I think it's more of a deal of Coto and the Shatner-novel-writing-team
being die-hard TOS fans, more than anything else.

 

[myrdden]

Do we really have any evidence that the question is being "pushed" by anyone at all? Having an interesting answer might be a selling point to a long-time fan, so they might use and advertise it. But that doesn't mean anyone's pushing the question.

Yeah...after re-reading my post "pushing" is too strong a word. I just couldn't think of a better adjective at the time (still can't, actually).

The whole Klingon-head-thing has been discussed/debated/hypothesised/ranted/fanboyed quite a bit on some of the ST messageboards with various degrees of rationality. Each one though did have a fairly vocal group (minority, perhaps...can't really say) declaring that the head-thing was an issue that needed to be cleared up to maintain consitency in the show.

I'll agree that an answer could be quite interesting for long-time fans of the show (and quite frankly I feel that Enterprise, at its core, really is geared towards long-time fans). I just think that going this direction will end up with another mediochre episode or two and not be all that satisfying. I could be wrong though - afterall I thought the introduction of the Borg was an inane idea, but the actual episode wasn't too bad. In fact I though it was one of the best for that season.

 

[Staffan]

There's also mentioned the mirror universe storyline; I don't know how well they'll pull that off, since there's really nothing connecting the two universes before "Mirror, Mirror". It could be cool though because they delivered some really good storylines with the mirror universe in DS9.

Well, there had to be some event that caused the universes to evolve along their wildly diverging paths, hadn't there?

 

[Ranger REG]

The whole Klingon-head-thing has been discussed/debated/hypothesised/ranted/fanboyed quite a bit on some of the ST messageboards with various degrees of rationality. Each one though did have a fairly vocal group (minority, perhaps...can't really say) declaring that the head-thing was an issue that needed to be cleared up to maintain consitency in the show.

But it takes out all the mysteries that I like about the Klingons. I mean, let the fans debate about it until I am dead. I still prefer Worf's answer in DS9, "We don't talk about it among outsiders." It's about gratuitous as having Ferengi appearing on ENTERPRISE in a near-encounter scene.

I'll agree that an answer could be quite interesting for long-time fans of the show (and quite frankly I feel that Enterprise, at its core, really is geared towards long-time fans). I just think that going this direction will end up with another mediochre episode or two and not be all that satisfying. I could be wrong though - afterall I thought the introduction of the Borg was an inane idea, but the actual episode wasn't too bad. In fact I though it was one of the best for that season.

Speaking as a longtime fan, ENTERPRISE have never been geared toward me for the past three seasons. I tried to give Braga a second chance but I hated the show, but for a handful of them: when Andorians appear or when Andorians are in conflict with Vulcans.

But this season, we got a new man in charge and so far I like what he's done. But when I first heard about an upcoming episode that will reveal the Klingon forehead mystery, I am beginning to have doubts about Manny Coto. To me, only Braga would consider doing such an episode.

Unfortunately, I don't think they can't scrap this episode's production because the money they put into it is enormous when you look at their budget allocation for this season alone. I mean, in order to keep airing episodes on UPN, they cut their ordering price in half. IOW, what it takes to order one episode last season, UPN can order two. And last I heard they only ordered 13 episodes.

 

[myrdden]

But it takes out all the mysteries that I like about the Klingons. I mean, let the fans debate about it until I am dead. I still prefer Worf's answer in DS9, "We don't talk about it among outsiders." It's about gratuitous as having Ferengi appearing on ENTERPRISE in a near-encounter scene.

I agree. At this point I prefer Worf's comment as well. I just don't feel like it needs to be addressed since it is not a story issue, but rather a production-value issue.

Speaking as a longtime fan, ENTERPRISE have never been geared toward me for the past three seasons. I tried to give Braga a second chance but I hated the show, but for a handful of them: when Andorians appear or when Andorians are in conflict with Vulcans.

I though the first season really demonstrated that the show at a lot of potential. But the second and third season were mostly disappointing for me. The show really does have some gems in it (like the Vulcan/Andorian conflict and strong characters like Trip) but it just doesn't deliver many times.

But this season, we got a new man in charge and so far I like what he's done. But when I first heard about an upcoming episode that will reveal the Klingon forehead mystery, I am beginning to have doubts about Manny Coto. To me, only Braga would consider doing such an episode.

I like the Augments storyline, but was 'ho-hum' on the Vulcan story. I am liking Coto's new direction and what he has done so far. I'm not sure that the head-thing is purely Braga though. I'm sure it's a mixture of people who are thinking what can we do to bring back many of the fans to the show.

 

[jasper]

I just had an EVIL GENIUS thought. Using SW as example. Why don't we just digitially draw bumps on TOS and disavow the DS9 episode.

 

[Villano]

I just had an EVIL GENIUS thought. Using SW as example. Why don't we just digitially draw bumps on TOS and disavow the DS9 episode.

Greatest. Idea. Ever.

While they're at it, they can put in that "tribbles shoot first" thing that Shatner's been wanting to do.

Seriously, "fixing" the original series would probably be the simplest way to go. They could add some ridges to the Romulans and make that Gorn's mouth move.

I'm actually interested in hearing how they explain things. I have a Direct TV, so I don't get either UPN or WB, so I won't get a chance to see the actual episode.

I did see two episodes of Enterprise (the 2 part WW2), and while I wasn't blown away, I did want to see more. Much, much, much better than Voyager. When I was living in NYC, my apartment didn't have cable. One day, the only two shows I could get clear were Voyager and an Irish Tenor on PBS. I went with PBS. :\

 

[Ranger REG]

I like the Augments storyline, but was 'ho-hum' on the Vulcan story. I am liking Coto's new direction and what he has done so far. I'm not sure that the head-thing is purely Braga though. I'm sure it's a mixture of people who are thinking what can we do to bring back many of the fans to the show.

But revealing the Klingon forehead mystery is not going to bring back the fans they've lost. They should stick to the main story premise and that is the "Birth of the Federation."

Manny, if for some strange reasons you're reading this, you've got some of the fans back, including those who didn't like ENTERPRISE from the beginning (like me).

 

[Ranger REG]

I just had an EVIL GENIUS thought. Using SW as example. Why don't we just digitially draw bumps on TOS and disavow the DS9 episode.

HELL NO!