D&D (2024) Last minute guesses about what WotC did with the Bard

[mellored]

I expect very little changes from 2014. Their old spell list, inspiration dice, ect...
Counter charm will be the reaction reroll that was in the playtest.

Most of the changes will come from the spell lists.

 

[Kobold Stew]

My guesses, and I'll be optimist here, is they swapped the Divine, Arcane, and Primal Spell Lists for Cleric, Sorcerer, and Druid, but still have the basic Bard list with the unique Bard spells and spells they think should be universal choices.

I would it were so.

I am 90% confident there will be a bard list, but I would be a giddy schoolboy if there were a small sidebar (for both the Bard and the Sorcerer) saying with DM's permission you can choose from the Bard, Cleric, Druid, or Sorcerer list.

 

[Minigiant]

Bard might go down to 1 Expertise at level 2 like Ranger.

Also their secret might be restricted to full casters. Or they'd be force to pick only one class to steal from.

 

[Quickleaf]

I heard that WotC had to eat the minstrels?

 

[Bitbrain]

Made them the fifth subclass of Cleric, of course:

 

[Chaltab]

that would be a first, the monk be more than a c- is a 5e first making it worse seems just pointless at that point they might as well admit they hate monk and want to drop the damn class

I mean 4E monk was great, if MAD.

 

[Zardnaar]

I mean 4E monk was great, if MAD.

3.5 one waant that bad if you had good seats.

Trick was high strength vs dex+weapon finesse.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It'll be a bard spell list. I hope that it covers a lot of bases. I personally liked Bardic Inspiration as a Reaction, but I suspect it'll be gone.

Overall, I expect it to be fine. Nothing too exciting, but fine.

 

[Nadan]

I would it were so.

I am 90% confident there will be a bard list, but I would be a giddy schoolboy if there were a small sidebar (for both the Bard and the Sorcerer) saying with DM's permission you can choose from the Bard, Cleric, Druid, or Sorcerer list.

Sorcerer will be an odd choose if limited to 3 main caster list will be the thing, I believe it will be wizard list instead. Sorcerer list just a thinner wizard list that miss out a lot conjuration (summon creature), abjuration, divination, (stronger) illusion and necromancy spells, plus most named spell that isn't named after dragons.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Ability to play an instrument as a class specific spell.