Leftovers from 3E DDG

[BOZ]

besides the excluded pantheons (it all works out in the end, i guess), there were several gods of the Olympian, Phaoronic, and Asgardian pantheons from previous editions left out of the 3e DDG. this is just a list of the beings and creatures from these three pantheons which were not featured in the new book.

1E Dieties and Demigods:
Greek:
White Eagle of Zues (only mentioned as a celestial giant eagle in the new book)
Achilles (hero)
Antaeus (giant)
Atlas (greater titan, "strength personified")
Bellerophon (hero)
Cerberus (guardian of Hades)
Circe (the black sorceress)
Coeus (greater titan of fear)
Crius (greater titan of density and gravity)
Enceladus (giant)
Epimetheus (greater titan, "Afterthought")
Furies *
Hecatoncheire (hundred handed ones) *
Jason (hero)
Kronos (former ruler of the gods and greater titans)
Oceanus (greater titan of the sea and water areas)
Odysseus (hero) *
Perseus (hero)
Prometheus (greater titan, "Forethought")
Theseus (hero) *

Egyptian:
Ra *
Anhur (god of war) *
Apshai (god of insects)
Flame snakes
Geb (god of the earth) *
Horus (son of Osiris, "The Avenger") *
Phoenix
Seker (god of light)
Shu (god of the sky) *
Tenfut (goddess of storms and flowing water) *

Norse:
Bragi (god of poetry eloquence, and song) *
Fenris Wolf *
Fjalar (dwarven hero) *
Fossergrim (enchanted beings) *
Garm (guardian of Hel-gate) *
Idun (goddess of spring and eternal youth) *
Jormungandr (Midgard Serpent)
Magni (god of strength)
Modi (god of courage and berserk rage)
Norns (the fates) *
Vidar (god of strength and silence)

* These were also in the 2nd edition book, making their omission from 3E DDG all the more suspicious.


2E Legends and Lore:
Greek:
spell: Enhance
spell: Favor
Gaea (goddess of fertility, health, prophecy)
Uranus (god of the sky)
Cronus (god of sinister ambition)
Rhea (goddess of fertility, life)
Titans
Gigantes

Egyptian:
Nut (goddess of the sky, couples forbidden to marry)

Norse:
spell: Berserk
item: Sword of the Gods
item: Sword of Odin
Sigurd (hero)
Beowulf (hero)
Fafnir (dragon)

 

[I'm A Banana]

Eh. They crammed as much as they could, and picked the things that would be the most useful for the PC's from a metagame perspective.

I'm (personally) working on a compendium of campaign information for each of the cultures therein, which would include omitted gods, more campaign-specific monsters, rules, etc. It might be a while, though, unless someone wants to start paying me for it.

 

[Crothian]

I would have liked to seen more of the monsters, but they really did not have the room. The write ups in these version are much, much longer and more complete then any other version. THat in itself makes up for the missing gods. Hopefully, we will see future products that details more of these gods and other panthions.

 

[AmerginLiath]

The Ra/Horus deal is explainable since they went for the later (New Kingdom era) concept of Horus ascening to Ra's position as the amalgamate Re-Horakty.

And I imagine we might see some of those mythological heroes (who were left out because they were neither dieties or demigods methinks! ) in the ELH as examples of epic characters...

 

[med stud]

It was bad that they left out the norns and the Fenris Wolf and Midgård Serpent .

The norns were in command of everyone, and their weave could very well have been the inspiration of Robert Jordan's weave; it could maybe be interresting for someone to see that model.

Without the Fenris Wolf and the Midgård Serpent, Ragnarök (=the Apocalypse) can not be fully explained :-/

Ah well, I guess they have to compromise a bit with the content, maybe

 

[BOZ]

wasn't really complaining about the omissions, just pointing em out. i have done a few conversions of the monsters, and i will add links when i have some time.

 

[The Traveler]

I really would have gladly paid for a longer book. Just over 200 pages really isn't enough. I know the book was $30 already, but if you punch it to $35, you can get in 50 to 100 more pages for that cost. That would have been a lot of room for good things.

 

[Viking Bastard]

...the norns...

I stared at that for quite some time wondering what the heck a 'norn' was. But then it dawned on me, it was Icelandic, my own native language. ROTFLMAO!!

 

[SonOfLilith]

What! How can you calim to have Egyption gods, yet leave out Ra and Horrus?? I mean, they are not the top gods, but they are very important and well known gods non-the-less.

 

[The Traveler]

What! How can you calim to have Egyption gods, yet leave out Ra and Horrus?? I mean, they are not the top gods, but they are very important and well known gods non-the-less.

Well, they do have Re-Horakhty, which is Horus ascended to be king of the Gods from later Ptolemaic Egypt. It's a result of the later dynasties combining Horus and Re/Ra. They list him as the son of Isis and Osiris, and that he was once known as Horus.